Don Pedro Jaramillo

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bite that hard, y'all. What
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This month it creeped up on me, to be honest, I did not

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expect to be as busy as I
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I say it every time, very
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Psychic conspirat Fest hosted by Curious Twins
over in San Antonio was such a fun

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event. I had such a great
time speaking to the crowd and I got

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such a positive response, So that
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If I met you there and you
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much for showing up, Thank you
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It was so fun to me all
GHOL friends old and new in person

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at that event and to have just
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you may have seen if you're following
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Soustal podcast. On every social media
platform, I posted about speaking at a

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career day at an elementary school here
in Austin. I talked about it in

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a TikTok as well. That was
something very new I have never done before.

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After doing that, I also they
just happened to line up perfectly.

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But after that, I went to
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in San Antonio and that was also
amazing. It was so much fun to

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speak to varying age groups. Of
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are just kind of interested in how
everything looks and sounds, and the high

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school students are really engaged with some
amazing questions, and so just kind of

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talking to them about creating and performing
and stuff like that was such a good

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time. So thank you to everyone
for inviting me out to do these things.

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It's so much fun. I talk
about it constantly about how much I

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love doing in person events, So
keep them coming. If you all are

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ever curious or wondering. I don't
know if he would say yes, or

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if it would be appropriate, or
if it would work or whatever, just

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ask me and I will find a
way to make it work, because again,

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I love doing a person things like
that. Thank you to everybody who

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voted for the best of Austin.
We are waiting for results. We will

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hear about those I think mid to
late June, so fingers crossed. It

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is in the universe's hands now.
We all did our parts. Thank you

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so much for that. We'll keep
our eyes peeled for that one. I

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don't have too many other updates for
today. I'm going to like I mentioned

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in the last episode about Guandismo,
I want to dive a little bit deeper

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into each of the Gurandelo's that I
mentioned on that episode. And so today

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we are going to start with the
story of Don Pedrito Aramio. Here lie

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the remains of Pedro Herameo, the
Benefactor of humanity. Born in Guadalajara,

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Jalisco, Mexico, died at Baisanos, Star County, Texas, July third,

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nineteen oh seven. This is the
epitaph written in Spanish on a small

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stone in the front of a cross
that marks the grave of an old Mexican

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faith healer in a small cemetery near
Falfurias in South Texas in what is now

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known as Brooks County. Bethro Haramo
came to visit this part of Texas from

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Mexico in eighteen eighty one. His
interest in the locality developed through a friend

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in Mexico who knew this country.
He first came in the company of some

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men who were bringing liquors to Las
Caabra's ranch of Don Andrescanellas, where a

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celebration was to be held on Saint
John's Day June twenty fourth, which was

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a festival that was widely celebrated on
Mexican ranches in those days. This gave

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Dom Pedro an opportunity to see the
country. He went back to Mexico only

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to return and settle at Los Olmos
ranch. He announced himself as a Gurandero,

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a healer, and settled in the
neighborhood of present day Farfudias. At

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that time, there was only one
doctor between Corpus Christi and Laredo in San

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Diego. Even so, the Mexican
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He claimed that God bestowed on him
the power to heal the sick. To

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say, which prescription given in the
name of God and executed with faith had

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power to heal? He claimed no
healing power of himself. Rather, his

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mission was to help the sick through
their faith in God's power to heal them.

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He did not charge for the prescriptions. The patients gave whatever they cared

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to or nothing at all. Nevertheless, what the people gave voluntarily was sufficient

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for them. Don Perro, who
himself often gave to the poor and the

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sick who came to him. For
himself, he wanted only enough for his

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very frugal living. He thought that
since God had bestowed on him the power

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to heal humanity, he could also
take that power away from Haomio if he

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used it for his own benefit.
Don Pedro related that when he was a

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poor laborer in Mexico, working for
half a bushel of corn and the equivalent

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of five dollars a month, he
suffered an affliction of the nose. One

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night, he said, he was
suffering so much that he went out into

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the woods to a pool of water. He lay down and buried his face

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in the mud at the edge.
This relieved him. He stayed there,

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treating himself with the mud. At
the end of three days, he was

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well, but his nose remained disfigured. This disfiguration of the nose is always

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associated with the gift of healing that
is credited to Don Perrito. He returned

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to his house and laid down and
slept. After a while, a voice

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awakened him and told him that he
had received from God the gift of healing.

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At the same time, the voice
told him that his master was sick

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and that he had the power to
cure him. Dom Pedro got up and

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went to his master. He prescribed
the first thing that came into his mind.

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In this case, the prescription was
a tepid bath daily for three days.

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His master followed this prescription and recovered. Thus began the work of this

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Gurandero at his new home on Los
Olmos Creek. His work began among the

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families at Losolmo's Ranch and the neighboring
ranches. It grew to a marvelous extent,

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until it finally covered hundreds of square
miles. His practice lasted of full

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twenty five years. During the first
years, it was very difficult to contact

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a great many of the people.
Only through long, hard trips could it

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be done. At this time,
dom Perrito made trips on horseback far from

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his home, sometimes accompanied by a
friend. He would go to Corpus Christi,

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San Antonio, and Loreto. He
would stop at intermediate points, and

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in this manner he saw thousands of
people who were sick and wanted his help.

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On one of these trips to San
Antonio, it is said the crowd

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became so great that the police were
called. The doctors took notice and made

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an investigation to see by what authority
Don Perrito practiced. They found that they

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could do nothing to stop him because
he made no charges for his prescriptions.

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When Don Perrito went away on a
trip, he left at home groceries to

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feed the people who came from a
distance and waited for his return. These

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groceries were brought by wagon and team
from the town of Alice, forty miles

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away. When his work was well
established, a grocery merchant said he would

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buy four or five hundred dollars worth
of groceries at a time. This merchant

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also said that Don Perito was the
only customer he had who bought an entire

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barrel of cube sugar in one order. He would sometimes prescribe the sugar and

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furnish the patient with the remedy.
He kept the groceries in a lumber room

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built for that purpose and called it
the store, but nothing was sold.

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Where need existed, food was given. One of his friends, Don Antonioino

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Josas, gave him a present of
a hundred acres of land. This he

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developed into a farm. He fenced
it, put a small house and a

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well on it, and set someone
to work it. Here he raised corn,

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watermelons, gourds, peppers, garbanzos, and garlic. Whatever came off

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the farm went into Don Perrito's work
with the gurandero received with one hand he

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gave away with the other. When
Don Pedrito had been at Los almost about

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ten years, a terrible drought visited
the country, It began in eighteen ninety

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three and lasted several years. Don
Albino Canales, son of Donandres Canales and

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Las Gabras Ranch, who was a
small boy at the time, says that

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Don Pedrito practically fed the northern part
of then Star County. Don pe Rito

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employed people to help work his land
and to look after and help those who

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came for healing. At times,
there would be as many as five hundred

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people camped on Los Olmos Creek waiting
for the return of Don Pedrito. Some

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came for miles on foot, others
on horseback, others in wagons and buggies,

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and entire families might come bringing one
sick member. When Don Pedrito was

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at home, he would go into
his jacal or hut and sit at a

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table where his employee directed the people
who visited before him. Don pe Trito

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knew the nature of their sickness,
whether they shared it or not. He

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was credited with having clairvoyance as well
as psychic abilities. When he gave the

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prescription, sometimes orally, sometimes written
down, the patient would place what they

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cared to give on the table.
To some patients, the gurandero would say,

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no, keep your money. You
need it for your trip home or

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again, he would say, no, return it to whom you borrowed it

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from. In this way he dispatched
the people easily and quickly. After Don

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Peedriito had lived at Los Olmos for
some time, a post office was established

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there with the name of Baisano.
The mail was first brought by a mail

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carrier on horseback. Later it came
by stagecoach on the run from Alice to

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Brownsville. Then much of Don Pedrito's
work was done by mail. In the

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many letters he received, sometimes as
many as two hundred a week, were

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enclosed stamps or money. Of the
stamps, there were enough for the replies,

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and finally enough to fill a large
box. The register of the post

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office showed that many letters were sent
out, but that the stamps sold were

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not equal in number to the letters
mailed. For this reason, an investigation

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was made from the Post office department
in Washington. The investigator was not convinced

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until he saw the amount of stamps
that Don Pedrito had collected at his house.

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When the railroad reached the new town
of Fufurias in nineteen o three,

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twenty years after Don Pedrito had come
to Los Olmos, and only four years

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before his death many sick people came
on the train. A man at Los

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Olmos established the business of transporting the
people back and forth the four miles between

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the railroad station of Alfurias and dom
Perrito's home at Los Olmos. This man

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had four vehicles that at times made
three or four trips a day, bringing

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the people to get prescriptions and taking
those away who had been prescribed. For

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the work of the s Gurandeero was
not confined to his own people. He

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prescribed for many of the Americans,
and all those who knew him and his

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work were convinced that he was a
good man, charitable and sincere, one

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who believed that he had a god
given mission to perform and dedicated all his

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time, efforts, and money to
that end. Nevertheless, his work caused

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him to meet with disapproval by some
doctors and officers of the places he visited.

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It is said that he was suspected
in Mexico and at one time put

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in jail there, but the charge
against him of being a brujo was not

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strong enough to justify his being held. The late doctor Ja Strickland, who

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knew Don Petrito better than any other
doctor in the country who covered the same

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territory he did, and who no
doubt treated the same patience At times when

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neither knew it said that Don Petrito
was a smart but uneducated man, and

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that he did perform wonderful cures.
When someone suggested to doctor Strickland that the

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gurande will be prohibited from doing his
work, he was quoted as saying,

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no, how do I know that
Don Perito's prayers don't do more good than

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my pills. One Father Bard was
located some fifty miles from Don Perrito,

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who was within the priest's parish.
When one of his altar boys, Lafayette

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Write, was inclined to make light
of Don Pedrito and his remedies, Father

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Bard reproved him. He explained that
God, knowing of the great need of

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the people where there were so few
doctors, saw fit to bestow on this

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humble man the power of helping them. He had endowed him for the work,

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and the servant fulfilled his vocation faithfully. It can be said that there

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has never been another so so honored
and appreciated among the Mexican people of South

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Texas as this Gurandero, this folk
healer Bedrojramio. It can also be said

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that no one else in this part
of the country, of whatever nationality,

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religion, economic or social standing,
has done through a lifetime as much to

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try to relieve human suffering as this
man did. Through the twenty five years

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that he lived in South Texas.
He gave to his work, the days

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of his life and the many thousands
of dollars presented by those who felt that

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they had been helped through him.
And now, over one hundred years after

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his death, the Mexican people are
holding this folk character the benefactor of humanity,

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in still greater reverence. As time
passes. They regard him as a

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saint, an attitude he discouraged during
his lifetime. He told his patients repeatedly,

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I have no healing power. It
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your faith, which heals you.
Today, pictures of dom Pedrito are placed

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among those of the saints in the
homes of many Mexican people of South Texas,

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and small statues copied from his picture
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Masses are often said for the repose
of his soul in the churches of the

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region where many people still remember him, and in many homes. A place

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of honor is given to an enlarged
picture of the Gurandero, A firm in

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Laedo that supplies curative verbs, uses
his picture and the trademark Don Perrito on

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All Souls Day. In nineteen fifty, seventy years after he first came to

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Los Almos ranch, now a ghost
ranch itself, people came for miles to

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visit his grave. They entered a
cemetery of twenty five graves through a gate,

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over which is a placard written in
Spanish. It reads a memorial to

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Don Perritojramio from the signor Co Tres
and his co operators. Visitors kneel at

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his grave and prey. They say
the Rosary. They bring candles and glass

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containers with the figure of the vidend
Guadalupe printed in colors on the glass,

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to light and place at his grave. They bring wreaths of artificial flowers and

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statues. They bring other votive candles
of many kinds. All is performed in

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fulfillment of vows made to the spirit
of Don Perrito or in supplication of his

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help in the spiritual world. His
grave is covered with the roof supported by

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four posts. At one end is
a narrow shelf, on which are placed

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the lighted candles. At the other
end is a placard with the announcement dedicated

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by the Center of Psychological Studies,
Love and Affection of McCallan, Texas,

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January thirteenth, nineteen forty seven.
At the foot of the grave, a

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marble slab has been placed by a
grateful follower. On it is engraved Pedro

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Ramio in recompense of his miracle,
I dedicate this stone to his memory.

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Welcome back, girl friends. So
right off the bat, the source that

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I used was a treasure trove,
treasure chest, a gold mine, what

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have you. It was just the
perfect source because it had all of this

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in one page, and it has
what I'm going to go through next.

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But this is from Project to Muse. The website it's Muse dot JHU dot

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edu, so it's an academic source. And this is from a book called

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The Healer of Los Almos and Other
Mexican Lore, and this entry, or

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I'm assuming this chapter is called Don
Pedrito Ramio, The Curandero of Los Olmos,

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published by the University of North Texas
Press. And of course the direct

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link for this will be in the
suster to Google doc for patrons. But

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again you can search this. It's
page nine to seventy of this book to

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continue. There were several many I
didn't even count them. I want to

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say for sure, at least ten
different accounts of people's encounters or experiences with

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Haramio, and I pulled a couple
of them so that I can read to

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you. If we did all of
them, it would be just hours.

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But I did pull maybe like three
or four, and we're going to go

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through them. So the first one
that I have here is called how Senora

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to Masita the Canales was cured.
It says in the year eighteen eighty nine,

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Dona to Masita, the wife of
Don Andres Canales, which I believe

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was one of the people. Yeah, one of the people that was reference

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saying that he fed that northern part
of Star County during that really bad drought.

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That was the son of I'm guessing
this woman, Yeah, yeah,

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it's the same people. So it
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Donya to Masita, the wife of
Don Andres Canales, the owner of the

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well known Las Gabras ranch in jim
Wells County, became sick of a malignant

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fever. Senor Canalez called a doctor
from Corpus Christi, who came and prescribed

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medicines for her, but she grew
no better. Then another doctor was sent

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for her from the same town.
He attended her for a few days until

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he too confessed that he had done
all he could, all that science prescribed,

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and that, in his opinion,
there was no cure for the lady.

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Donandres then suggested taking his wife to
son Antonio, but the doctor said

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that she would not survive the trip
from the ranch to Collins, which at

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that time was the nearest railroad station. The trip would have had to be

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made over a twenty five mile unimproved
road by a horse drawn conveyance. Apparently,

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the rest of this story was written
in a letter from a judge,

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Jose Canalis of Brownsville. It says, while I was not present when my

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mother was sick, yet I have
heard the account of her sickness and cure,

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both from her own lips and from
my father's, especially from my father,

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who was very accurate in his statements, and who was not a believer

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in Don Pedro as a faith healer
until this incident took place, my grandmother

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was alive and attending my mother during
her sickness. My mother had lost consciousness.

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My two brothers, Alvino and Andres, had been sent from Matamoros where

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they were attending school, and my
mother was unable to recognize them, whom

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my grandmother was advised to what the
doctor had said. She suggested to my

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father. But since the doctor had
no hope for her recovery, and since

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my grandmother did have faith in Don
Pedro Hadamio's power to cure, my father

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should send a messenger to Losolmos and
ask Don Pedro for some recipe. This

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says, it is set that I'm
guessing yeah, for a remedy from him.

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This continues. My father consented and
sent a cowboy there, and Don't

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Pedro prescribed that she should be bathed
in natural water or unheeded water, three

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times, once every two hours.
When this message came, the last doctor

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was returning to Corpus, and he
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cold water, she would die.
At that time, according to medical science,

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when a person had high fever,
it was not considered safe to prescribe

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cold water as an antidote. You
know that now doctors often prescribed cracked ice

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in such cases, so very different
science back then was continues. My mother

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was bathed in cold water according to
the prescription sent by Don Pedro, and

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she survived the ordeal. The first
bath was given late in the evening,

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and the others were given during the
night. On the next morning, my

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mother was able to recognize my two
brothers again. Don't Pedro had sent word

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by the cowboy that he would come
over to our rant the following morning,

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which he did. When Don Pedro
arrived the next day, my mother had

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recovered consciousness and was able to recognize
and talk to him. I do not

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know how long it took her to
recover, or what other prescriptions were administered

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by Don Pedro. All I do
know is that she got well, and

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when I came home from college,
I found that my mother had lost all

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her hair as the result of the
fever. Prior to this fever, my

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mother was of a slender physique,
and after this fever she began to put

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on flesh and continued to be rather
stout in physique up to her death.

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It is true that my mother had
a great deal of faith in Don Pedro,

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As you naturally would suppose, but
it is not true that she never

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took other medicines or remedies except in
the name of God and of Don Pedro.

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She was attended by other physicians,
and while she was a very religious

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woman and a good Roman Catholic up
to her death, she did not worship

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Dom Pedro in the same sense indicated
by some people. We revered the name

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of Don Pedro as we think he
was God's instrument to save my mother from

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death at that time, and we
still have an enlarged picture made from a

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Kodak which my mother ordered made.
But we do not ascribe to domp Beedro

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any other power except the fact that
we believe that he was one of God's

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humble instruments for good among our people, especially those who hold the true faith

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in Jesus Christ, our Lord.
That's one thing, And I know that

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Don't Bedrol felt the same. He
felt like I have no real power.

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I'm merely a vessel and instrument.
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power being able to tap into,
whether you want to call it God or

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the universe or nature, whatever name
you might call it. By tapping into

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this higher power, I think that
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don't Bedro was a very humble man, and that's great, that's beautiful,

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we love that for him, but
I do think he had you know that

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that in itself is a power.
Something interesting that was also in here Judge

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Caniliz wrote about his mother was that
he said, it is not true that

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she never took other medicines or remedies. So, like I had mentioned in

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the Granderismo episode, or if you
were there for the presentation, that just

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because Lettin people have access to faith
healers or curandes or brugues, doesn't mean

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they're going to turn away from biomedical
interventions or a doctor or medicine. That's

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reiterated here that yet just she was
a believer that Don Pedro was working via

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God. But she also still took
her medicine in whatever prescribed from doctors,

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which I think is great and important, but just again interesting to point out

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that this is a first person account
of that. The next one that I

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have here, this one's short,
and I thought it was kind of funny.

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This says, yes, Jose the
young man who was feeding Norman Hoffmann's

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fine horses at San Diego, Texas, said, I have heard a great

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deal about Don Pedrojrameo. He went
on to say that his parents, who

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had lived near San Diego for many
years, knew him well and depended on

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him to prescribe for any sickness they
might have in the family. But the

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only remedy he prescribed that Jose could
remember was a cup of water. He

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had cured them with that only it
appeared that Jose didn't care to mention the

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name of a woman in the fam
emily who had severe attacks of migraine headaches.

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When someone went to Don Pedrito to
secure a remedy for her, he

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sent her word to have her head
cut off and thrown to the hogs.

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When the woman was told what the
Gurandero had prescribed, she became violently angry

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and didn't have any more headaches.
I think that one was hilarious, just

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thinking from the point of a pure
believer. They credited Don Pedritojramio as having

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clairvoyance and psychic abilities, and he
was often able to tell what people's issue

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was before they even got to him, or they told him whatever. But

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he I guess maybe in some sense
knew that this woman would have an explosive

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reaction we'll call it. And that
was the cure, was to force her

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to have that reaction and then in
turn maybe release some sort of pressure,

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be it physical or mental or spiritual
or combination of those, that released her

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from those kind of like when you
pop your back really good and that release

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just feels good. Maybe something like
that. He gave her a spiritual bone

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popping or something that got rid of
those headaches. But I just thought it

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was funny that his cure was to
piss her off. This next one is

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a collection of various cures. It
says at times a man suffered from headache

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until he took to his bed.
The remedy for him was that for three

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mornings he should get up at the
same hour and drink a glass of water.

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He recovered in three days. That
could also be dehydration, because to

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this day I hear of people that
do not drink water. All they drink

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is sodas or coffees or just anything
but water. And I'm just thinking,

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please have a glass of water.
Everyone, hydrate or diedrate, seriously,

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please, It will help you a
ton. So this one seems kind of

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obvious, right, but I mean, who knows. Maybe do Beto was

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able to tell does not drink water. So my prescription will be hydrate yourself,

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for the love of God. It
continues. For a sick girl,

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the remedy with which she was cured
was that she take a bath every night

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for nine nights, washing her head
well with soap. Then that she eat

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as much as she should want of
a can of fruit or whatever kind was

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available, and place the remainder where
only the chickens could find it. Interesting.

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Next says the prescription for a certain
woman was to dip her head into

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a bucket of water as she was
ready to go to bed. The next

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morning, she was to put half
a can of tomatoes into each shoe,

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then put the shoes on and wear
them that way all day. Seen venuenza

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without shame. I wonder what this
remedy was for though. Okay, so

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based on the things that we're seeing
so far. So the first was to

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hydrate this person. The next was
for a sick girl, was that she

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bathe, wash her head with soap, and she eat fruit. Immediately,

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my mind goes to scurvy. Maybe
she wasn't getting enough vitamin C. If

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she's eating fruits, I'm thinking citruses
oranges, oranges and citrus grows very well

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in the Rio Grande Valley or in
the southern Texas. Maybe it could be

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that this dip head in a bucket
of water before bed, and then in

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the morning wear your shoes with tomatoes
in each of them. Okay, if

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any of you know healing properties or
vitamins or enzymes something that tomatoes have,

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I want to know what it is. I could also look it up,

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but I want you to tell I'm
gonna look it up, and I want

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you to also tell me if you
think of any before I am able to

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say it on here. Okay,
this one says, studies suggest that they

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may ease inflammation, boost your immune
system, lower your cholesterol levels, and

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keep your blood from clotting. Okay, those are some help benefits of tomatoes.

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So maybe this person and this is
me just trying to play the skeptic

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here and logically explain what some of
these things might be, because who knows.

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Maybe don't Padrito had this divine knowledge. People thought it was seen just

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random remedies or prescriptions, but maybe
he was tapped into this divine knowledge of

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holistic healing of herbalism. As we
discussed in the last episode, right,

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But yeah, so maybe this person
then was suffering from some sort of inflammation

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or increased cholesterol levels, so they
maybe felt their heart was off or something,

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and they told him that who knows. Okay, again, just trying

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to like play the skeptic and explain
some of this. This next one says

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a case of particular interest, it
was said, was that of a Colonel

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Torribio Rigalo, who was brought from
the city of Torrion, Mexico. He

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was so violently insane that he was
kept tied. Don Pedro prescribed a can

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of tomatoes every morning for nine mornings. The man was confined at Los Almos

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while he took the remedy. At
the end of nine days, he was

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well and his friends took him back
to Mexico. Okay, so again it's

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tomatoes. Okay. So again playing
the skeptic, I'm thinking that this person

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was quote so violently insane maybe because
they had some very intense inflammation of the

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brain or in the skull, and
so it was maybe pressing on a part

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of the brain that was making him
act out in a way that was deemed

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again quote violently in saying, I
don't know, who knows? Apparently tomatoes,

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you know, are just We're saving
people's lives left and right out here.

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But again, just to reiterate as
was said earlier, is these prescriptions

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were given in the name of God
with the intent of putting them to use

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with full faith. I'm just playing
a part here. I do believe in

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the power that doj Demio had and
the final various remedy that I have.

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Here says a man had a very
fine horse that got sick. Dompeto told

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the man to tie the horse to
a china berry tree at twelve o'clock sharp

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and at one o'clock sharp to take
him away from the tree. With this,

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the horse would get well and the
china berry tree would die. Okay,

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okay, who knows what a china
berry tree is, because I don't.

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I've never heard of that. Commonly
known as the chinaberry tree pride of

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India b tree, It's a species
of deciduous tree in the mahogany family.

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Interesting this says, extracts from chinaberry
tree have been studied for potential medicinal applications,

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including antibacterial, anti malarial, anti
fertility, and anti viral properties.

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So this plant does have potential medicinal
applications. So okay, Now part of

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me thinks, what if the Petrojaramio
was an herbalist by way of divine I

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guess intervention or divine connection. Again, as I was kind of saying earlier,

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he was prescribing all these things,
foods and stuff and now apparently herbs.

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Maybe he was given a divine insight
to herbalism. I don't know.

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This is interesting. This took an
interesting turn for me because this now sounding

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a lot like herbalism. Thoughts,
concerns, questions, what do you all

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think? I'm going to continue to
the final entry that I have here.

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This says the Night of the New
Moon. Felippe Lerma said that once he

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was sick, without knowing what was
the matter with him. At that time,

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Don pe Trito came to the town
of Beeville in b County, where

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Philippe lived. He went to consult
him the Gurandero asked him what his sickness

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was. Philippe told him that he
didn't know, only that he didn't feel

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well. Then Don Peedrito told him
that what he had was sousto fright,

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arising at a certain time and continuing
afterwards, so as to cause chronic sickness.

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If you don't want to tell the
cause, Don Pedrito added, I

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shall tell you there were four men
together. One of them killed one of

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the others, and the dead man
fell at your feet. At this your

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heart stopped, and from this resulted
your sickness. And it was the truth

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that this had happened. Philippe said, Oh, I got chills. Don

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Petrito gave him a remedy. On
the night of the new moon, after

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he had eaten his supper and was
about to go to bed, he should

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take a bottle of beer and empty
it into a hare or some other vessel,

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and to drink it all at one
draft. He should do this three

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times each time on the night of
the new moon. Philippe said that this

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remedy cured him of the fright.
Okay, so right off the bat,

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I will never tell you all to
drink your problems away, but I will

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say, after a few beat on
on guys, I do feel a little

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bit better about somethings. Of course, I could not have done this without

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I mean, once I saw the
word susto, I said, that's it.

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I have to put that in.
But that does remind me this takes

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me kind of full circle. Before
we wrap this up is in part of

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the story, it says that the
store merchant said that Don Pedrito was the

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only person that the merchant knew that
ordered an entire barrel. I think was

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the word they said of sugar cubes
or sugar of some sort, and it

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reminds me of or it made me
wonder if he using the sugar to remedy

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sustal. I'm sure he used it
for many other things and purely just to

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feed people because he had tons of
visitors. But you all may have heard

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me say before, either on the
show or when I've done events that when

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I explained sustal, I say,
there are different remedies based on which culture

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you're speaking to, even down to
which community. And for me growing up,

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my mom's remedy for sousto was to
mix a spoonful of sugar in a

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glass of water and dissolve it and
then whoever had the sustal had to chug

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that and that would you know,
help, that would cure it. So,

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yeah, it made me wonder when
they mentioned that detail about him buying

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all that sugar, I thought,
Oh, I wonder if he was using

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it to cure sustal. And apparently, you know, susto is something that

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he was curing. But you know, so many of these remedies were they

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were different for each person, so
it couldn't have been that he was using

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if you have sustal sugar. Obviously
for this person, it was a whole

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ritual involving beer, even down to
pouring the beer into a separate vessel versus

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just drinking it straight from the one
that it Cayman who knows. But also

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beer has carbs. And if you
remember Flavia Drago, who has been on

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the show before, she said that
in twenty seventeen when they had that earthquake

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in Mexico, the street vendors were
giving out bread, bolio bread. You

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know, carbs, and of course
also sugar is a carb. Maybe carbs

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are the secret. Okay, so
those of you all who are carb free

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on your diet, allow yourself to
break your diet if you have a case

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of susto. Apparently bread is the
answer. Olive Garden is doing the Lord's

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work with the bottomless breadsticks or whatever
it is, endless breadsticks. We'll go

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ahead and wrap that there. Welcome
back, girlfriends, Thank you so much

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for listening. I hope that you're
enjoying this series, if you will,

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of Gurandrismo andandet is. I asked
in the last episode if anybody was interested

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in me pursuing this, and I
did get some good feedback from you all

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that you wanted me to do this
again. I listened to your feedback.

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I look out for it and I
appreciate it. And if you would like

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to leave your own feedback on this
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Honestly, leave anything in there,
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You can also share it with people
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so much. I will talk to
you in the next one. And until

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then, put your finger on your
nose, and then put your other hand

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on your head. Stand on one
foot, jump in a circle, do

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a split, and your cold will
be gone in the morning. Bye.