July 18, 2024
El Niño Fidencio
In this episode, Ayden discusses El Niño Fidencio, a Mexican curandero who gained fame in the late 1920s for his healing abilities. Despite facing opposition from the Catholic Church and the medical community, El Niño Fidencio attracted thousands of...
In this episode, Ayden discusses El Niño Fidencio, a Mexican curandero who gained fame in the late 1920s for his healing abilities. Despite facing opposition from the Catholic Church and the medical community, El Niño Fidencio attracted thousands of followers who sought his help.
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Wow, big goolfriends, it's me
Adrian or Aiden. Either way you are
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still listening to Susto. The show
centered on uky, spooky, scary stories
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from Latin American and Hispanic cultures.
Welcome back, thank you for being here,
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and if this is your first time, welcome, Welcome to the family.
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You're possessed, now, you're haunted. Now the devil's fault. No,
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I'm kidding, girlfriends. I am
back now from the True Crime and
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Paranormal Podcast Festival in Denver, Colorado. I had a hell of a time.
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It was so much fun. I
made so many cool connections. I
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reunited with old friends, I met
some people IRL for the first time ever,
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and made new friends. It was
truly, truly, truly, such
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a great weekend. I left feeling
reinvigorated and re energized about Sustal. Of
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course I always say this. I
never had plans to stop, but anytime
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something like that happens, it puts
more fuel into my fire, if you
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will. So, yeah, it
was. It was a great weekend.
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If you are a best golfriend on
Patreon dot com slash Sustal podcast. Then
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I made a couple of vlog videos
just kind of recapping my days. But
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I will say some of the biggest
takeaways for me were I left also with
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a newfound confidence in my ability as
a live podcaster or as a performer or
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entertainer, if you will. It's
very different, you know, sitting in
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my home office right now it's just
me on the mic versus being in a
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room with people and getting real live
reactions and feeding and working off of that
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and collaborating with other people. So
all that today say, the live show
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that I did was so cool.
I said, Okay, I know what
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direction to move in from here on
now. It's basically what I've been doing,
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but this was like a benchmark.
Huge shout out to all of the
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volunteers and the panelists and attendees and
everyone at True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival,
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especially Laney Hobbes. We had an
amazing weekend. We got to spend a
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lot of time together Laney from It's
Haunted, What Now? And True Crime
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Cases with Laney please go check her
out, of course. And aside from
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that, I did a panel with
Christina and Carmen from Espooky Tels, who
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we finally got to meet in real
life, and it literally it was like
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running around with my cousins when we're
like twelve year old, just scaring the
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shit out of each other. And
we also did the panel with Stephanie Strange
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from Getting Strange with Stephanie Strange,
and she was amazing. She's such a
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sweetheart. And also with Haunted Detective
with Pamela and Kelsey, they were also
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so amazing, and we really just
you know, that panel. I think
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it went well and I'm so grateful
to everybody who showed up to the panel
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and we were able to have a
really cool discussion about the ethics in storytelling
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and paranormal investigations. As always,
there's always more to come with SUSTO.
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I'm always telling you to keep your
eyes and ears on it because I'm always
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working to for the next steps,
you know, for the next evolution of
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this show. So I will also
say it was kind of bittersweet to attend
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this True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival because
next year it is going to be in
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Boston and it is going to be
the True Crime Podcast Festival, No Paranormal.
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But with that being said, I
may still attend if I can swing
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it. But with that there will
also be a new festival called Beyond the
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Veil Festival, which aims to unite
paranormal creators. That festival will be in
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New Orleans, Louisiana, and I'm
so excited because I love New Orleans.
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I think it's amazing. I think
it is one of the spooky capitals of
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the world. If you haven't yet, make sure to follow them on Instagram.
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You can also visit their website It's
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and all updates on the show.
If you are a paranormal creator, there
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is an interest form on the website
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go check that out follow them online. And of course, the amazing Laney
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Hobbs is behind this festival, so
I already know it's going to be amazing.
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And again I will definitely be there
and I hope to see you all
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there. And that's going to be
in September twenty twenty five, from the
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twenty seventh through the twenty eighth.
I think that may be it for now,
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but as always, if there are
any new updates, you can find
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those by following at Susto podcast on
every social media platform. And we're going
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to go ahead and get into today's
episode, we are continuing the Guranda Dismo
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series and today we will be talking
about Elino Fivencio. Nino Fidenzio was born
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Jose de Jesus Fidenzio Constantino Cinta on
October seventeenth, eighteen ninety eight, in
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the village of Uridia, Guanajuato,
Mexico. Although details of Fidensio's life are
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largely unknown, in some biographical accounts, he was born into a large,
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poor family. Fidensio was described as
highly religious as a young boy, and
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at the age of eight, he
began to display special mental powers, guessing,
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thinking, and recognizing his peers despite
being blindfolded. He also performed his
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first healing by restoring his mother's broken
arm. He may have worked on a
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Yucatan plantation as a young boy and
served as an altar boy in the local
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church. After returning to Guanajuato,
Fidenzio was said to have acquired his nickname
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Elnigno or the Boy, due to
the fact that he always retained a soft,
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high pitched voice and a childish face
and demeanor. Because of this,
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there has been speculation he never experienced
typical puberty. The Mexican Revolution and its
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aftershocks set the scene for a twelve
year old Neno fidensio. The destruction and
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violence occurring during the war and the
torment and despair that remained afterwards left many
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in the country seemingly broken physically,
mentally, and spiritually. The Mexican government
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and the Catholic Church were locked in
a battle for ten years following the war.
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The power and privilege of the church
and clergy had been restricted in the
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Constitution of nineteen seventeen. Consequently,
church property was nationalized and the church was
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prohibited from criticizing the government in any
way. Catholic priests were imprisoned, expelled,
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or even executed. President Blutarco Elias
Gaius, president from nineteen twenty four
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to nineteen twenty eight, became known
for his advancement of an anti Catholic agenda.
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In nineteen twenty six, Gaius law
set forth severe punishments for any violation
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of the Constitution. In protest,
the Catholic Church essentially went on strike in
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Mexico. Throughout the country, clergymen
canceled religious services. The struggle between church
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and state was caused for unrest and
initiated a rebellion from nineteen twenty six to
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nineteen twenty nine, known as the
Cristo Rebellion, an uprising consisting of armed
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priests and lay persons. Thus the
country was in turmoil, leaving many looking
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for a savior. The religious felt
oppressed. There was now a severe lack
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of access to the church as well
as social services. It was at this
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time of rising tumult that Elinino appeared
in Espinasso. Nino Fidensio rapidly acquired a
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reputation as a Guran zero the same
year he arrived in Espinaso. In nineteen
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twenty five, Fidenzio began to take
on tasks usually associated with women, including
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caring for sick and newborn animals,
working in a kitchen, and watching over
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children, while showing a high interest
in both healing and religion. When a
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mine collapsed at Le Deforma that first
year, Fidenzio cured fifteen of those who
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had survived. It was then that
people first began to seek El Nigno and
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to travel to the little town of
Espinaso in hopes of miracles. In nineteen
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twenty seven, Fidenzio reported that he
had experienced a vision in which Jesus Christ
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and the Holy Spirit appeared to him
and called him to his sacred vocation of
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relieving others suffering. This vision is
reported to have come at a time of
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personal desperation. According to Fidenzio,
the vision came as he sat distressed under
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a sacred pepper tree in the city. It was around this sacred tree that
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Fidenzio later formed many of his public
healing sessions while surrounded by miracle seekers.
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These public healings ran both day and
night, often for several days at a
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time. The circle formed around the
living folk saint by these miracle seekers became
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known as Elsidguro, the Guracion,
or the healing circle. Elninho was believed
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to have possessed miraculous powers since childhood. Of these, he was particularly noted
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for his powers of clairvoyance. Many
reported that he knew when a terminally ill
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person approached him, he would tell
them to go and make their peace with
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God, as he could do nothing
but pray for them. To many who
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sought his powers, Elninho's body itself
was a holy cure. Fidensio was thus
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able to perform mass healings without having
to cure each person individually. Such mass
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healings included the throwing of fruit into
a crowd of the afflicted, or Fidenzio
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himself being passed through a crowd of
people lying above them as they held him
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uplifted in their arms to pass over
the gathering. On February eighth, nineteen
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twenty eight, despite his anti Catholic
political agenda, Mexican President Gaius visited with
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Fidenzio for six hours. Many believed
that he went to Elnino with the skin
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condition, seeking a miracle from the
folk saint. He is said to have
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pulled Fidensio into his private train and
even to have worn a garment belonging to
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the Gurandero. With this event,
the Mexico city press began to take great
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interest in Elninho, and his popularity
greatly increased. Many interpreted the president's visit
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as an endorsement of El Nino and
the folk Catholicism practiced in Espinaso as opposed
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to the institutional Catholic Church of the
country, to which he had clearly shown
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his opposition. It was soon reported
by Mexican newspapers that the folk Heeller's home
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had been completely surrounded by over one
hundred improvised shacks, creating a community of
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the mentally and physically ill. For
some, these lodgings weren't as temporary as
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they would have hoped. The numbers
of afflicted persons seeking aid grew so large
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that some had to remain there for
weeks or months before receiving treatment. Espionaso
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became filled with people suffering from paralysis, cancer, syphilis, leprosy, mental
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illness, and numerous other maladies.
Hundreds soon turned to thousands as the ill
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and dying amassed in the small town. The area they inhabited came to be
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referred to as El Gampo de dolore, or the field of pain. Eliginno
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is as famous for the number of
healings he performed as he is for the
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unusual ways in which they were done. While he engaged in healings, patients
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were fully conscious. Neither tranquilizers nor
pain medications were given, yet they reportedly
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felt no pain. His tools were
often as unconventional as his methods. He
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regularly removed tumors with pieces of glass, He would heal paralysis with a swing,
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and he often performed ritual cleansings in
mud and his own bathwater. The
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medications and baths he administered were made
from desert and native plants he collected.
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Over his time as a curandero,
el Nino amassed a large following, some
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referred to as cult like. This
group of followers came to be known as
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the Fibensistas. A small army of
the ultra faithful called the Brigadaroja or Red
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Brigade, encircled, sheltered, and
protected Edinino from the constant attacks of the
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press, the medical community, the
government, and the church. Vested interests
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played a part in maintaining the cult
of Adenino Fidencio. Espinaso had become one
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of the most important pilgrimage destinations in
Mexico, and it remains so today.
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Legions of faithful, along with those
seeking a miracle, journey to Espinaso year
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after year. Many in and around
the small community earned their living by serving
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these visitors. El Nino's physical appearance, simple mannerisms, tunic and the style
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of Biblical times, gentle alto voice, and beardless face further enhanced his growing
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mythic and cult figure status. It
is not surprising that followers sometimes referred to
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him as the Christ of Espinaso.
Before his death, he had begun to
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act out scriptural events emulating the life
of Christ, further supporting his cult figure
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status. Elinho had an uncanny ability
to anticipate questions and provide accurate answers while
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delivering spontaneous and profound orations on complicated
religious topics. Like Jesus Christ, Elinho
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chose to deliver his spiritual messages by
using a combination of parable and allegory and
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often staged simple plays to make his
point. Elinho's healings of the masses were
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reported to be damaging to the licensed
doctors and drug stores of northern Mexico in
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newspaper reports. The press report stated
that the shift of patients from legitimate health
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services to that of Fidensio was the
cause of serious fire financial problems for those
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involved in the licensed medical care industry. On February eighteenth, nineteen twenty nine,
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Fidensio had legal proceedings initiated against him
the state of Novoleon accused him of
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practicing medicine illegally. As a result, Fidensio remained under strict scrutiny for the
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remainder of his life, constantly criticized
by public officials representing health and medicine.
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He was arrested twice on similar charges. This negative publicity caused the Roman Catholic
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Church to further distance itself from Elnigno. The church had already been engaged in
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a long and difficult struggle with the
government and did not wish to provide additional
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reasons for governmental distrust of the church. Fidencio passed away just before his fortieth
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birthday, on October nineteenth, nineteen
thirty eight. Although the exact cause of
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Nino Fidensio's death is unknown, it
was conjectured by many, both inside and
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outside of the Vidensi Sta movement,
that over aga, exhaustion, and under
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nutrition likely played a large role.
He had begun to suffer from an unknown
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illness in nineteen thirty five, and
although there was no conclusive diagnosis, pictures
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of the folk saint in his last
years make him appear bloated. To many
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of his adherents, this was another
sign of his holiness. They attributed the
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bloating to the Holy Spirit, which
would not cease filling his body. It
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is also believed that an image of
Christ was found on Fidensio's chest and an
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image of the Viti Luadelupe on his
heart. After his death, the tension
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between licensed health providers and the medical
industry and Fidensio led to the popular belief
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in the folk saint's death being an
assassination initiated by the doctors who opposed him.
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Many of his adherents believed that while
El Nino was in a state of
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meditation which lasted three days, the
doctors took the opportunity to announce the death
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of the Gurandero as his body appeared
lifeless, and performed an autopsy. It
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is believed that the doctors began the
autopsy by making an incision in his throat,
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warm blood spurted out, showing that
he had been alive. The doctors
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responsible are reported to have died shortly
after. The popular conception of Aninia being
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murdered by doctors is likely the result
of a photograph of the faith healer's autopsy
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in which two doctors are examining the
neck wound. Although followers of Ninia Fidenzio
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adhere to the basic tenets of Roman
Catholicism and consider themselves Catholics, Fidensio is
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not recognized as a saint by the
Roman Catholic Church. Since Roman Catholicism strictly
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forbids veneration of anyone not officially beatified
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from a Roman Catholic perspective. He
then Seizmo, shifts the focus away from
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Jesus Christ in favor of the Mexican
Messianic believed by many to be the reincarnation
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of Christ himself. Beginning in the
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the Christ of Espiinaso. Fidencistas have
also appropriated the iconic presentation of the Vitan
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de Guadalupe through the popular image known
as Elino Guadalupano, in which Fidenzio is
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substituted for the Vitan. Fidenzio's claim
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fundamental component of the movement, has
further exacerbated tensions with the Church. However,
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Fidenzio's rejection by the Roman Catholic hierarchy
has not deterred Fidencista enthusiasm. Elino
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Fidenzio told his followers specifically that he
would communicate with them through spirit mediums after
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his death. He warned them that
many would claim to be him. Review
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them very carefully, he said,
because only a special few will truly deliver
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my message welcome back with friends.
I have been enjoying so much how well
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documented and researched these Guandetto's have been. It's very reassuring and relieving to know
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that this information is being preserved because
these people were pillars of community and culture
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and history. So it's it's just
I love that. Of course, this
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episode would not be possible without the
researches that have already done this work.
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So the main source that I used
for today's episode, it comes from a
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doctor Tony Zata from his website It's
doctor That's dr Tony Zava dot com.
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And he has a whole section on
Nino Fidanz your research on his website along
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with other gus research and he has
a couple of books out. So my
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TBR list just every episode, every
day, my tow b red list just
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gets longer and longer. But he
has a ton of great research on here,
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even pictures that I will be posting
on the social media post for this
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episode. But yeah, I used
his website to put the story together,
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and I also used several other resources
or there were other points that I wanted
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to cover. So this first one
comes from Revista, which is a Harvard
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review of Latin America, and this
was published in twenty twenty one. At
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the time of publishing, this was
by Alfredo Garciagarasa, who was a PhD
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student in the Committee on the Study
of Religion at Harvard University. I'm not
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sure if he has gone on to
complete his PhD program. If he has,
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if you're listening, congratulations, If
not, I mean, hey,
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getting into a PhD program and doing
any of that work is still amazing.
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But this entry is by Alfado Garcia
Garasa. It is called annino fidensia,
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a healing power of the afflictive.
And there were just a couple of things
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that I wanted to read here and
again by I think the perceptions of anino
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fidensial by the Catholic Church are a
very interesting talking point here. So right
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off the bat, Alfaredo addresses this
in this piece and he says, a
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few years ago, during my first
semester at Harvard Divinity School, I was
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when Professor David garrasco lectured about his
research on the transnational Mexican Guandetto or spiritual
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healer Anina Fidenzio, Josefidenzio, the
JSUS Cinto Ra Constantino. Up until that
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moment, I had largely kept my
own childhood years of attending Fidensio's healing rights
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in rural Mexico a private matter.
I was afraid how people would react if
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I told them I grew up going
to guracionez or healing rituals where amatia or
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medium channeled the spirit of a dead
Mexican gurandeto. So I kept those religious
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experiences to myself. The Catholic guilt
is just so strong, even though these
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people, Fidenistas and Fidensio identified as
Catholics. But I think again, it's
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this, the aspect of the mediumship
or the psychic power to channel the spirit
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of Anina Fidenzio, is where the
Catholic Church is like, No, that
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is devil re that's witchcraft. Although
people all the time say like, oh,
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Jesus came to me here, I
don't know. It's you all know
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how I feel about the Catholic Church. That part of it, I feel
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like is very hypocritical. But oh, well, it's inherently spooky anyway,
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this continues. To my surprise,
I learned that god Osco had actually met
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ed Nino while he was a graduate
student at the University of Chicago in the
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nineteen seventies. He was part of
a mission located in the Little Village,
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a Mexican neighborhood in Chicago. At
the same time, he was studying shamanic
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traditions with the historians of religions Charles
H. Long and Mirsia Eliad. As
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I came to understand the vast impact
of Adninho, I realized that my own
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religious experiences and practices could be utilized
as an unprecedented source for organizing new knowledge
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about the sacred A. Fedola goes
on to describe his experience at these guaciones,
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and I wanted to read a bit
about that as well. It says
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the guacion started by the women praying
the rosary behind the materia, again the
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medium, who in turn was facing
the domestic altar. The altar was filled
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with candles and images of the crucified
Christ, the Vitici, Le Guadalupe and
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other saints and Fidenzio. As the
rosary came to an end, the Madia
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started yawning. This was the signal
that he was about to enter a trance.
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One of his main assistance covered his
head with the table as the materiaz
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yawning turned into accelerated coughing and aninial
took possession of his body. Then Fidenzio
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softly recited three ave marias in call
and response form, marking the end of
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the ecstatic transition. I would love
to observe this. I think it would
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be so amazing to see like a
fiden Sista guracion in action and of course
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with like the utmost respect, just
like pure curiosity. And I don't know,
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I'm just like I would love to
see it firsthand. I feel like
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from what I read about the fiden
Sista movement is it embraces all of the
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supernatural parts of Catholicism that I feel
like institutionalized Catholicism is afraid to do or
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looks down on. He continues as
a aninial, Fidenzio manifested himself. He
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greeted everyone and led them in reciting
different prayers. One of the initial prayers
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used to announce his presence Blessed Precenteente
and believers and non believers like as well
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as those addicted to alcohol and those
in prison. In other words, Nino
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started kuodascione is by blessing the marginalized, those neglected, shamed, and persecuted
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by political or religious institutions. I
think this has been a big through line
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with each of the Gudandeto's that we've
covered so far, with Don't Betrojrameo,
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with Deesa Aurea, and now with
Elino Fidensio is it's almost as if they're
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doing the actual work that the church
is supposed to be doing. You know,
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they're helping the sick and the poor
with no questions and listen, I
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know, I know that there are
churches out there that are doing good hashtag
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nod al churches whatever. When I'm
reading these stories, it's like, you
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know, like don't better Gramio gave
back so much of the money that was
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given to him, so much of
the food that he bought with the money
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that he raised, He gave that
to the community around them and supported them
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area. She was a champion for
marginalized people, for indigenous people, for
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laborers, for women, and now
at Nino Fidensio it's said that he's doing
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the same thing. He's providing a
service to people who were not able to
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access it. Another thing that I
thought was interesting in this article is the
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mention of something called alavanzas, which
are religious hymns central to curacies, and
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it's very interesting. It reminds me
of like gorridos for example. You know,
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corridos are typically stories. There are
a preservation of a story, and
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they're made into songs, which I
know happens in many cultures, but they're
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made into a song to preserve these
stories. And so I'm going to read
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from here and this says again alavanzas
or religious hymns central to curaciones or these
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healing circles across time and space.
Ordinary people have written them to express their
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religious experiences. As followers of Fidenzio. Via Lavanzas mentioned places like San Antonio
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and Chicago where miss organize guacis for
the materia to channel the spirit of Elnino
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Fidenzio. Again, the materias the
medium. This continues. The center in
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the Alevanzas is a tiny town of
the center called Espinaso. It originated as
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a railway station located in the outskirts
of the states of Novo Leon and Guahuila.
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Espinaco became known as as you mentioned
earlier, the field of pain and
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a sight of pilgrimage. Since Adnina, Fidencia rose in influencing fame in the
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late nineteen twenties when thousands of desperate
people came and seek of healing, Espionasos
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referred to in dozens, if not
hundreds of alabanzas. So I'm gonna play
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one of those now, because I
actually was able to find some on YouTube,
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and let's see if whichever one I
find mentions Espionasoo, condo, covil,
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Baloi, CoMFA and the last thing
I'll read about that here it continues.
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The alavanzas include witness accounts of Fidensio's
power and unconventional healing methods in making
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the blind sea and the mute speak. They mentioned his use of medicinal plants
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and the significance of a pirulito,
the pepper tree under which God gave him
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the dawn or gift of healing and
revealed to him his mission on earth.
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Simply put, Fidenzio's mission is to
use his down to heal the suffering poor.
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Thus, the Alavanzas conceive Espinazo as
holy ground, a space that became
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sacrilzed through a manifestation of the sacred. The next article I have here is
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from the San Antonio Heron and this
was published in again twenty twenty one by
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Kayla Badilla, and it's called an
Evening with a Nino Fidenzio, a Mexican
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gurandero. And this article it's really
cool. It's just basically Kayla explaining how
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she went to a botanica or Yerberilla
and I guess there was a materia there
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or the medium who is able to
channel Lino Fidenzio, and she spoke to
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She allegedly spoke to Lino Fidenzio through
this person. But it's very interesting,
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and she says, at one point, I followed the note taker to the
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back of the shop and she brought
me into a room Coronilla had walked me
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through earlier. This time Adnino Fidensio
was waiting for me stand in front of
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Edeninho. She advised me, I
had forgotten the note taker was going to
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be in the room, and as
shy as that made me, it wasn't
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going to stop me from asking a
question about a vulnerable subject love. After
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asking my question, Anio Fidenci responded
and gave me genuine advice that was applicable
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to my life, advice that I've
decided not to mention in this piece due
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to its specificity, which that alone
is very I mean, because it's like
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if she didn't think it was important, like why not included? But they
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continue. Though I had gone into
the Botanica feeling that my question was too
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cheesy or unimportant compared to the others. Adninho answered my question with sincerity.
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I really could ask anything, but
even answering my question, he kept talking.
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To my surprise, he said something
else that had nothing to do with
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my question. According to Erninho,
I had the ability to read tea leaves
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if I really sharpened my practice.
But I just thought that that was a
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cool story. This like firsthand experience
with Nino fidenso you know. And the
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last thing I have here is actually
a YouTube video, so if you all
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are interested in watching it, it
is called The Miraculous Life of a Nino
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Fidenzio and it's a vice short documentary. I have not watched any of it
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yet, but I will. I'm
actually going to be watching this today's Thursday
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Wednesday if you're a patron, but
this Friday with best cool friends for our
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virtual hangout. So you also have
gotten your invitation already on Patreon, already
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sent that out. But I mentioned
you should listen to this week's episode before
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we hang out, so I would
say, yeah, this is a really
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good fun precursor to listen to this
before we watch this short documentary together.
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So those are all. Those are
the sources that I have today, Okay.
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I also wanted to mention it before
I forget the I think one detail
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that was so interesting to me when
they're explaining when he would do mass healings
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is they doctor Zeviatata wrote it in
a very nice way, but I was
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like, oh, he's crowdsurfing,
which I think is amazing. Imagine just
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having the ability to heal by crowdsurfing. I wish I had that power,
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the way that I would go to
every show and just jump off a stage
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in CrowdSurf and be like healed,
healed, healed, healed. I don't
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know why it's it's it's cool,
but it's all it's kind of funny to
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me that I don't know, I'm
just imagining him crowdsurfing and some really cool
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song playing and he's just being a
total badass. Anyway, I thought that
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I just wanted to make sure to
mention that before I forgot Doctor Zavleta's research
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was just so thorough and comprehensive.
And I again, I'm adding once more
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to my my book list. Should
I put my book wish list out there
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and if you all want, you
can send me a book because I have
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so many on there. I can
talk more about that later, but those
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are the sources I have. So
yeah, we'll be right back. Welcome
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back, girlfriends. So again,
so interesting this through line of these people
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who have been in direct contact with
Christ or God or whatever source you believe
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that is presenting itself as Christianity and
Catholicism. Their mission is always to help
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people, and they do. And
they're just one person that have amassed followings
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that allow them to help people versus, like I mentioned earlier, there are
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some actual institutionalized places of worship that
claims to be helping communities, and you
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know how that can go sometimes again
hashtag not all churches. Yeah, thank
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you so much. I hope you
enjoyed this episode. I hope you've been
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enjoying this series. I think I
may have one more episode left in this
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series, but again, you all
let me know if you have any recommendations.
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Again, we will be watching the
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If you are a best golfriend at patreon
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dot com and also all of the
direct links for the sources are in these
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Wow, big goolfriends, it's me
Adrian or Aiden. Either way you are
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still listening to Susto. The show
centered on uky, spooky, scary stories
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from Latin American and Hispanic cultures.
Welcome back, thank you for being here,
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and if this is your first time, welcome, Welcome to the family.
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You're possessed, now, you're haunted. Now the devil's fault. No,
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I'm kidding, girlfriends. I am
back now from the True Crime and
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Paranormal Podcast Festival in Denver, Colorado. I had a hell of a time.
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It was so much fun. I
made so many cool connections. I
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reunited with old friends, I met
some people IRL for the first time ever,
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and made new friends. It was
truly, truly, truly, such
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a great weekend. I left feeling
reinvigorated and re energized about Sustal. Of
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course I always say this. I
never had plans to stop, but anytime
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something like that happens, it puts
more fuel into my fire, if you
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will. So, yeah, it
was. It was a great weekend.
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If you are a best golfriend on
Patreon dot com slash Sustal podcast. Then
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I made a couple of vlog videos
just kind of recapping my days. But
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I will say some of the biggest
takeaways for me were I left also with
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a newfound confidence in my ability as
a live podcaster or as a performer or
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entertainer, if you will. It's
very different, you know, sitting in
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my home office right now it's just
me on the mic versus being in a
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room with people and getting real live
reactions and feeding and working off of that
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and collaborating with other people. So
all that today say, the live show
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that I did was so cool.
I said, Okay, I know what
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direction to move in from here on
now. It's basically what I've been doing,
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but this was like a benchmark.
Huge shout out to all of the
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volunteers and the panelists and attendees and
everyone at True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival,
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especially Laney Hobbes. We had an
amazing weekend. We got to spend a
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lot of time together Laney from It's
Haunted, What Now? And True Crime
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Cases with Laney please go check her
out, of course. And aside from
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that, I did a panel with
Christina and Carmen from Espooky Tels, who
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we finally got to meet in real
life, and it literally it was like
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running around with my cousins when we're
like twelve year old, just scaring the
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shit out of each other. And
we also did the panel with Stephanie Strange
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from Getting Strange with Stephanie Strange,
and she was amazing. She's such a
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sweetheart. And also with Haunted Detective
with Pamela and Kelsey, they were also
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so amazing, and we really just
you know, that panel. I think
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it went well and I'm so grateful
to everybody who showed up to the panel
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and we were able to have a
really cool discussion about the ethics in storytelling
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and paranormal investigations. As always,
there's always more to come with SUSTO.
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I'm always telling you to keep your
eyes and ears on it because I'm always
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working to for the next steps,
you know, for the next evolution of
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this show. So I will also
say it was kind of bittersweet to attend
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this True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival because
next year it is going to be in
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Boston and it is going to be
the True Crime Podcast Festival, No Paranormal.
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But with that being said, I
may still attend if I can swing
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it. But with that there will
also be a new festival called Beyond the
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Veil Festival, which aims to unite
paranormal creators. That festival will be in
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New Orleans, Louisiana, and I'm
so excited because I love New Orleans.
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I think it's amazing. I think
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the world. If you haven't yet, make sure to follow them on Instagram.
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You can also visit their website It's
Beyond the veilfest dot com for any
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and all updates on the show.
If you are a paranormal creator, there
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is an interest form on the website
if you're interested in participating, so please
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go check that out follow them online. And of course, the amazing Laney
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Hobbs is behind this festival, so
I already know it's going to be amazing.
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And again I will definitely be there
and I hope to see you all
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there. And that's going to be
in September twenty twenty five, from the
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twenty seventh through the twenty eighth.
I think that may be it for now,
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but as always, if there are
any new updates, you can find
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those by following at Susto podcast on
every social media platform. And we're going
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to go ahead and get into today's
episode, we are continuing the Guranda Dismo
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series and today we will be talking
about Elino Fivencio. Nino Fidenzio was born
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Jose de Jesus Fidenzio Constantino Cinta on
October seventeenth, eighteen ninety eight, in
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the village of Uridia, Guanajuato,
Mexico. Although details of Fidensio's life are
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largely unknown, in some biographical accounts, he was born into a large,
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poor family. Fidensio was described as
highly religious as a young boy, and
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at the age of eight, he
began to display special mental powers, guessing,
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thinking, and recognizing his peers despite
being blindfolded. He also performed his
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first healing by restoring his mother's broken
arm. He may have worked on a
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Yucatan plantation as a young boy and
served as an altar boy in the local
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church. After returning to Guanajuato,
Fidenzio was said to have acquired his nickname
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Elnigno or the Boy, due to
the fact that he always retained a soft,
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high pitched voice and a childish face
and demeanor. Because of this,
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there has been speculation he never experienced
typical puberty. The Mexican Revolution and its
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aftershocks set the scene for a twelve
year old Neno fidensio. The destruction and
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violence occurring during the war and the
torment and despair that remained afterwards left many
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in the country seemingly broken physically,
mentally, and spiritually. The Mexican government
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and the Catholic Church were locked in
a battle for ten years following the war.
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The power and privilege of the church
and clergy had been restricted in the
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Constitution of nineteen seventeen. Consequently,
church property was nationalized and the church was
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prohibited from criticizing the government in any
way. Catholic priests were imprisoned, expelled,
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or even executed. President Blutarco Elias
Gaius, president from nineteen twenty four
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to nineteen twenty eight, became known
for his advancement of an anti Catholic agenda.
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In nineteen twenty six, Gaius law
set forth severe punishments for any violation
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of the Constitution. In protest,
the Catholic Church essentially went on strike in
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Mexico. Throughout the country, clergymen
canceled religious services. The struggle between church
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and state was caused for unrest and
initiated a rebellion from nineteen twenty six to
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nineteen twenty nine, known as the
Cristo Rebellion, an uprising consisting of armed
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priests and lay persons. Thus the
country was in turmoil, leaving many looking
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for a savior. The religious felt
oppressed. There was now a severe lack
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of access to the church as well
as social services. It was at this
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time of rising tumult that Elinino appeared
in Espinasso. Nino Fidensio rapidly acquired a
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reputation as a Guran zero the same
year he arrived in Espinaso. In nineteen
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twenty five, Fidenzio began to take
on tasks usually associated with women, including
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caring for sick and newborn animals,
working in a kitchen, and watching over
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children, while showing a high interest
in both healing and religion. When a
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mine collapsed at Le Deforma that first
year, Fidenzio cured fifteen of those who
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had survived. It was then that
people first began to seek El Nigno and
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to travel to the little town of
Espinaso in hopes of miracles. In nineteen
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twenty seven, Fidenzio reported that he
had experienced a vision in which Jesus Christ
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and the Holy Spirit appeared to him
and called him to his sacred vocation of
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relieving others suffering. This vision is
reported to have come at a time of
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personal desperation. According to Fidenzio,
the vision came as he sat distressed under
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a sacred pepper tree in the city. It was around this sacred tree that
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Fidenzio later formed many of his public
healing sessions while surrounded by miracle seekers.
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These public healings ran both day and
night, often for several days at a
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time. The circle formed around the
living folk saint by these miracle seekers became
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known as Elsidguro, the Guracion,
or the healing circle. Elninho was believed
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to have possessed miraculous powers since childhood. Of these, he was particularly noted
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for his powers of clairvoyance. Many
reported that he knew when a terminally ill
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person approached him, he would tell
them to go and make their peace with
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God, as he could do nothing
but pray for them. To many who
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sought his powers, Elninho's body itself
was a holy cure. Fidensio was thus
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able to perform mass healings without having
to cure each person individually. Such mass
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healings included the throwing of fruit into
a crowd of the afflicted, or Fidenzio
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himself being passed through a crowd of
people lying above them as they held him
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uplifted in their arms to pass over
the gathering. On February eighth, nineteen
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twenty eight, despite his anti Catholic
political agenda, Mexican President Gaius visited with
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Fidenzio for six hours. Many believed
that he went to Elnino with the skin
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condition, seeking a miracle from the
folk saint. He is said to have
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pulled Fidensio into his private train and
even to have worn a garment belonging to
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the Gurandero. With this event,
the Mexico city press began to take great
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interest in Elninho, and his popularity
greatly increased. Many interpreted the president's visit
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as an endorsement of El Nino and
the folk Catholicism practiced in Espinaso as opposed
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to the institutional Catholic Church of the
country, to which he had clearly shown
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his opposition. It was soon reported
by Mexican newspapers that the folk Heeller's home
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had been completely surrounded by over one
hundred improvised shacks, creating a community of
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the mentally and physically ill. For
some, these lodgings weren't as temporary as
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they would have hoped. The numbers
of afflicted persons seeking aid grew so large
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that some had to remain there for
weeks or months before receiving treatment. Espionaso
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became filled with people suffering from paralysis, cancer, syphilis, leprosy, mental
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illness, and numerous other maladies.
Hundreds soon turned to thousands as the ill
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and dying amassed in the small town. The area they inhabited came to be
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referred to as El Gampo de dolore, or the field of pain. Eliginno
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is as famous for the number of
healings he performed as he is for the
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unusual ways in which they were done. While he engaged in healings, patients
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were fully conscious. Neither tranquilizers nor
pain medications were given, yet they reportedly
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felt no pain. His tools were
often as unconventional as his methods. He
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regularly removed tumors with pieces of glass, He would heal paralysis with a swing,
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and he often performed ritual cleansings in
mud and his own bathwater. The
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medications and baths he administered were made
from desert and native plants he collected.
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Over his time as a curandero,
el Nino amassed a large following, some
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referred to as cult like. This
group of followers came to be known as
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the Fibensistas. A small army of
the ultra faithful called the Brigadaroja or Red
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Brigade, encircled, sheltered, and
protected Edinino from the constant attacks of the
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press, the medical community, the
government, and the church. Vested interests
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played a part in maintaining the cult
of Adenino Fidencio. Espinaso had become one
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of the most important pilgrimage destinations in
Mexico, and it remains so today.
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Legions of faithful, along with those
seeking a miracle, journey to Espinaso year
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after year. Many in and around
the small community earned their living by serving
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these visitors. El Nino's physical appearance, simple mannerisms, tunic and the style
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of Biblical times, gentle alto voice, and beardless face further enhanced his growing
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mythic and cult figure status. It
is not surprising that followers sometimes referred to
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him as the Christ of Espinaso.
Before his death, he had begun to
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act out scriptural events emulating the life
of Christ, further supporting his cult figure
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status. Elinho had an uncanny ability
to anticipate questions and provide accurate answers while
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delivering spontaneous and profound orations on complicated
religious topics. Like Jesus Christ, Elinho
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chose to deliver his spiritual messages by
using a combination of parable and allegory and
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often staged simple plays to make his
point. Elinho's healings of the masses were
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reported to be damaging to the licensed
doctors and drug stores of northern Mexico in
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newspaper reports. The press report stated
that the shift of patients from legitimate health
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services to that of Fidensio was the
cause of serious fire financial problems for those
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involved in the licensed medical care industry. On February eighteenth, nineteen twenty nine,
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Fidensio had legal proceedings initiated against him
the state of Novoleon accused him of
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practicing medicine illegally. As a result, Fidensio remained under strict scrutiny for the
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remainder of his life, constantly criticized
by public officials representing health and medicine.
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He was arrested twice on similar charges. This negative publicity caused the Roman Catholic
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Church to further distance itself from Elnigno. The church had already been engaged in
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a long and difficult struggle with the
government and did not wish to provide additional
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reasons for governmental distrust of the church. Fidencio passed away just before his fortieth
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birthday, on October nineteenth, nineteen
thirty eight. Although the exact cause of
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Nino Fidensio's death is unknown, it
was conjectured by many, both inside and
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outside of the Vidensi Sta movement,
that over aga, exhaustion, and under
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nutrition likely played a large role.
He had begun to suffer from an unknown
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illness in nineteen thirty five, and
although there was no conclusive diagnosis, pictures
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of the folk saint in his last
years make him appear bloated. To many
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of his adherents, this was another
sign of his holiness. They attributed the
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bloating to the Holy Spirit, which
would not cease filling his body. It
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is also believed that an image of
Christ was found on Fidensio's chest and an
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image of the Viti Luadelupe on his
heart. After his death, the tension
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between licensed health providers and the medical
industry and Fidensio led to the popular belief
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in the folk saint's death being an
assassination initiated by the doctors who opposed him.
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Many of his adherents believed that while
El Nino was in a state of
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meditation which lasted three days, the
doctors took the opportunity to announce the death
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of the Gurandero as his body appeared
lifeless, and performed an autopsy. It
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is believed that the doctors began the
autopsy by making an incision in his throat,
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warm blood spurted out, showing that
he had been alive. The doctors
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responsible are reported to have died shortly
after. The popular conception of Aninia being
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murdered by doctors is likely the result
of a photograph of the faith healer's autopsy
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in which two doctors are examining the
neck wound. Although followers of Ninia Fidenzio
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adhere to the basic tenets of Roman
Catholicism and consider themselves Catholics, Fidensio is
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not recognized as a saint by the
Roman Catholic Church. Since Roman Catholicism strictly
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forbids veneration of anyone not officially beatified
or canonized, veneration of Fidenzio is discouraged
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from a Roman Catholic perspective. He
then Seizmo, shifts the focus away from
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Jesus Christ in favor of the Mexican
Messianic believed by many to be the reincarnation
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of Christ himself. Beginning in the
late nineteen twenties, he became known as
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the Christ of Espiinaso. Fidencistas have
also appropriated the iconic presentation of the Vitan
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de Guadalupe through the popular image known
as Elino Guadalupano, in which Fidenzio is
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substituted for the Vitan. Fidenzio's claim
to spirit channeling, which serves as a
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fundamental component of the movement, has
further exacerbated tensions with the Church. However,
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Fidenzio's rejection by the Roman Catholic hierarchy
has not deterred Fidencista enthusiasm. Elino
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Fidenzio told his followers specifically that he
would communicate with them through spirit mediums after
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his death. He warned them that
many would claim to be him. Review
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them very carefully, he said,
because only a special few will truly deliver
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my message welcome back with friends.
I have been enjoying so much how well
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documented and researched these Guandetto's have been. It's very reassuring and relieving to know
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that this information is being preserved because
these people were pillars of community and culture
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and history. So it's it's just
I love that. Of course, this
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episode would not be possible without the
researches that have already done this work.
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So the main source that I used
for today's episode, it comes from a
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doctor Tony Zata from his website It's
doctor That's dr Tony Zava dot com.
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And he has a whole section on
Nino Fidanz your research on his website along
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with other gus research and he has
a couple of books out. So my
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TBR list just every episode, every
day, my tow b red list just
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gets longer and longer. But he
has a ton of great research on here,
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even pictures that I will be posting
on the social media post for this
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episode. But yeah, I used
his website to put the story together,
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and I also used several other resources
or there were other points that I wanted
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to cover. So this first one
comes from Revista, which is a Harvard
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review of Latin America, and this
was published in twenty twenty one. At
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the time of publishing, this was
by Alfredo Garciagarasa, who was a PhD
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student in the Committee on the Study
of Religion at Harvard University. I'm not
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sure if he has gone on to
complete his PhD program. If he has,
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if you're listening, congratulations, If
not, I mean, hey,
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getting into a PhD program and doing
any of that work is still amazing.
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But this entry is by Alfado Garcia
Garasa. It is called annino fidensia,
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a healing power of the afflictive.
And there were just a couple of things
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that I wanted to read here and
again by I think the perceptions of anino
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fidensial by the Catholic Church are a
very interesting talking point here. So right
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off the bat, Alfaredo addresses this
in this piece and he says, a
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few years ago, during my first
semester at Harvard Divinity School, I was
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when Professor David garrasco lectured about his
research on the transnational Mexican Guandetto or spiritual
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healer Anina Fidenzio, Josefidenzio, the
JSUS Cinto Ra Constantino. Up until that
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moment, I had largely kept my
own childhood years of attending Fidensio's healing rights
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in rural Mexico a private matter.
I was afraid how people would react if
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I told them I grew up going
to guracionez or healing rituals where amatia or
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medium channeled the spirit of a dead
Mexican gurandeto. So I kept those religious
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experiences to myself. The Catholic guilt
is just so strong, even though these
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people, Fidenistas and Fidensio identified as
Catholics. But I think again, it's
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this, the aspect of the mediumship
or the psychic power to channel the spirit
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of Anina Fidenzio, is where the
Catholic Church is like, No, that
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is devil re that's witchcraft. Although
people all the time say like, oh,
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Jesus came to me here, I
don't know. It's you all know
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how I feel about the Catholic Church. That part of it, I feel
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like is very hypocritical. But oh, well, it's inherently spooky anyway,
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this continues. To my surprise,
I learned that god Osco had actually met
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ed Nino while he was a graduate
student at the University of Chicago in the
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nineteen seventies. He was part of
a mission located in the Little Village,
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a Mexican neighborhood in Chicago. At
the same time, he was studying shamanic
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traditions with the historians of religions Charles
H. Long and Mirsia Eliad. As
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I came to understand the vast impact
of Adninho, I realized that my own
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religious experiences and practices could be utilized
as an unprecedented source for organizing new knowledge
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about the sacred A. Fedola goes
on to describe his experience at these guaciones,
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and I wanted to read a bit
about that as well. It says
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the guacion started by the women praying
the rosary behind the materia, again the
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medium, who in turn was facing
the domestic altar. The altar was filled
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with candles and images of the crucified
Christ, the Vitici, Le Guadalupe and
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other saints and Fidenzio. As the
rosary came to an end, the Madia
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started yawning. This was the signal
that he was about to enter a trance.
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One of his main assistance covered his
head with the table as the materiaz
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yawning turned into accelerated coughing and aninial
took possession of his body. Then Fidenzio
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softly recited three ave marias in call
and response form, marking the end of
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the ecstatic transition. I would love
to observe this. I think it would
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be so amazing to see like a
fiden Sista guracion in action and of course
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with like the utmost respect, just
like pure curiosity. And I don't know,
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I'm just like I would love to
see it firsthand. I feel like
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from what I read about the fiden
Sista movement is it embraces all of the
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supernatural parts of Catholicism that I feel
like institutionalized Catholicism is afraid to do or
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looks down on. He continues as
a aninial, Fidenzio manifested himself. He
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greeted everyone and led them in reciting
different prayers. One of the initial prayers
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used to announce his presence Blessed Precenteente
and believers and non believers like as well
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as those addicted to alcohol and those
in prison. In other words, Nino
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started kuodascione is by blessing the marginalized, those neglected, shamed, and persecuted
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by political or religious institutions. I
think this has been a big through line
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with each of the Gudandeto's that we've
covered so far, with Don't Betrojrameo,
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with Deesa Aurea, and now with
Elino Fidensio is it's almost as if they're
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doing the actual work that the church
is supposed to be doing. You know,
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they're helping the sick and the poor
with no questions and listen, I
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know, I know that there are
churches out there that are doing good hashtag
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nod al churches whatever. When I'm
reading these stories, it's like, you
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know, like don't better Gramio gave
back so much of the money that was
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given to him, so much of
the food that he bought with the money
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that he raised, He gave that
to the community around them and supported them
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area. She was a champion for
marginalized people, for indigenous people, for
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laborers, for women, and now
at Nino Fidensio it's said that he's doing
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the same thing. He's providing a
service to people who were not able to
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access it. Another thing that I
thought was interesting in this article is the
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mention of something called alavanzas, which
are religious hymns central to curacies, and
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it's very interesting. It reminds me
of like gorridos for example. You know,
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corridos are typically stories. There are
a preservation of a story, and
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they're made into songs, which I
know happens in many cultures, but they're
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made into a song to preserve these
stories. And so I'm going to read
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from here and this says again alavanzas
or religious hymns central to curaciones or these
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healing circles across time and space.
Ordinary people have written them to express their
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religious experiences. As followers of Fidenzio. Via Lavanzas mentioned places like San Antonio
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and Chicago where miss organize guacis for
the materia to channel the spirit of Elnino
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Fidenzio. Again, the materias the
medium. This continues. The center in
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the Alevanzas is a tiny town of
the center called Espinaso. It originated as
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a railway station located in the outskirts
of the states of Novo Leon and Guahuila.
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Espinaco became known as as you mentioned
earlier, the field of pain and
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a sight of pilgrimage. Since Adnina, Fidencia rose in influencing fame in the
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late nineteen twenties when thousands of desperate
people came and seek of healing, Espionasos
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referred to in dozens, if not
hundreds of alabanzas. So I'm gonna play
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one of those now, because I
actually was able to find some on YouTube,
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and let's see if whichever one I
find mentions Espionasoo, condo, covil,
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Baloi, CoMFA and the last thing
I'll read about that here it continues.
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The alavanzas include witness accounts of Fidensio's
power and unconventional healing methods in making
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the blind sea and the mute speak. They mentioned his use of medicinal plants
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and the significance of a pirulito,
the pepper tree under which God gave him
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the dawn or gift of healing and
revealed to him his mission on earth.
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Simply put, Fidenzio's mission is to
use his down to heal the suffering poor.
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Thus, the Alavanzas conceive Espinazo as
holy ground, a space that became
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sacrilzed through a manifestation of the sacred. The next article I have here is
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from the San Antonio Heron and this
was published in again twenty twenty one by
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Kayla Badilla, and it's called an
Evening with a Nino Fidenzio, a Mexican
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gurandero. And this article it's really
cool. It's just basically Kayla explaining how
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she went to a botanica or Yerberilla
and I guess there was a materia there
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or the medium who is able to
channel Lino Fidenzio, and she spoke to
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She allegedly spoke to Lino Fidenzio through
this person. But it's very interesting,
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and she says, at one point, I followed the note taker to the
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back of the shop and she brought
me into a room Coronilla had walked me
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through earlier. This time Adnino Fidensio
was waiting for me stand in front of
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Edeninho. She advised me, I
had forgotten the note taker was going to
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be in the room, and as
shy as that made me, it wasn't
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going to stop me from asking a
question about a vulnerable subject love. After
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asking my question, Anio Fidenci responded
and gave me genuine advice that was applicable
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to my life, advice that I've
decided not to mention in this piece due
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to its specificity, which that alone
is very I mean, because it's like
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if she didn't think it was important, like why not included? But they
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continue. Though I had gone into
the Botanica feeling that my question was too
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cheesy or unimportant compared to the others. Adninho answered my question with sincerity.
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I really could ask anything, but
even answering my question, he kept talking.
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To my surprise, he said something
else that had nothing to do with
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my question. According to Erninho,
I had the ability to read tea leaves
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if I really sharpened my practice.
But I just thought that that was a
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cool story. This like firsthand experience
with Nino fidenso you know. And the
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last thing I have here is actually
a YouTube video, so if you all
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are interested in watching it, it
is called The Miraculous Life of a Nino
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Fidenzio and it's a vice short documentary. I have not watched any of it
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yet, but I will. I'm
actually going to be watching this today's Thursday
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Wednesday if you're a patron, but
this Friday with best cool friends for our
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virtual hangout. So you also have
gotten your invitation already on Patreon, already
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sent that out. But I mentioned
you should listen to this week's episode before
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we hang out, so I would
say, yeah, this is a really
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good fun precursor to listen to this
before we watch this short documentary together.
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So those are all. Those are
the sources that I have today, Okay.
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I also wanted to mention it before
I forget the I think one detail
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that was so interesting to me when
they're explaining when he would do mass healings
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is they doctor Zeviatata wrote it in
a very nice way, but I was
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like, oh, he's crowdsurfing,
which I think is amazing. Imagine just
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having the ability to heal by crowdsurfing. I wish I had that power,
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the way that I would go to
every show and just jump off a stage
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in CrowdSurf and be like healed,
healed, healed, healed. I don't
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know why it's it's it's cool,
but it's all it's kind of funny to
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me that I don't know, I'm
just imagining him crowdsurfing and some really cool
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song playing and he's just being a
total badass. Anyway, I thought that
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I just wanted to make sure to
mention that before I forgot Doctor Zavleta's research
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was just so thorough and comprehensive.
And I again, I'm adding once more
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to my my book list. Should
I put my book wish list out there
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and if you all want, you
can send me a book because I have
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so many on there. I can
talk more about that later, but those
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are the sources I have. So
yeah, we'll be right back. Welcome
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back, girlfriends. So again,
so interesting this through line of these people
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who have been in direct contact with
Christ or God or whatever source you believe
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that is presenting itself as Christianity and
Catholicism. Their mission is always to help
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people, and they do. And
they're just one person that have amassed followings
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that allow them to help people versus, like I mentioned earlier, there are
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some actual institutionalized places of worship that
claims to be helping communities, and you
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know how that can go sometimes again
hashtag not all churches. Yeah, thank
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you so much. I hope you
enjoyed this episode. I hope you've been
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enjoying this series. I think I
may have one more episode left in this
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series, but again, you all
let me know if you have any recommendations.
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If you know of a gurandere that
you believe should be covered on an
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As always, you can also send in
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think is spooky that I should share
on a letter from the Beyond episode or
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go to the website, leave in
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comment section on podcast episodes, so
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form now basically, so you can
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