Sept. 26, 2024

Ghostly, Ghastly Tales ft. Anastasia Garcia

Ghostly, Ghastly Tales ft. Anastasia Garcia

Life is a scary story! In this episode, Ayden interviews author of Ghostly Ghastly Tales, Anastasia Garcia.

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Life is a scary story! In this episode, Ayden interviews author of Ghostly Ghastly Tales, Anastasia Garcia.

Want to share your own creepy story, picture, or recording? Leave a 5 star review with your story attached, email Ayden at sustopodcast@gmail.com, DM on social media, or visit SustoPodcast.com to be shared on the show!

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Hey, girlfriends, it's me Adrian or Aiden. Either way, I

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am still your host and you are still listening to Soustal,

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the podcast of ouky spooky scary stories centered on folklore

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from Latin American Hispanic cultures. Welcome back. Thank you so

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much for returning, and if this is your first time, welcome,

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thank you so much for joining us, Gulfriends. I have

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a very special treat for you this episode. As you

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may have seen in the title or on the social

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media posts, in this episode, I am interviewing Anastasia Garcia.

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It was a true pleasure, a true honor. Anastasia. If

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you don't know, and you will hear about more in

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a bit, is the author of Ghostly Ghastly tells a

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new young reader's illustrated book. This book is amazing, and

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Anastasia is amazing herself. We get into some really cool conversations,

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we have really cool moments, and I'm so excited for

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you to be listening to this. And if you are

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a best golfriend on Patreon, then we're looking at each

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other right now.

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That's right.

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This is a video episode and there is also bonus

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content at the end of the episode for best Goalfriends

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on Patreon. We also have a very special announcement at

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the end of the interview, so make sure to listen

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all the way through to that something really cool that

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Anastasia and I are working on together. So yeah, keep

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your eye on it. You may have seen it in the.

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Social media post. It might be spoiled then, so if.

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You're impatient like me and you want to spoil the surprise,

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go ahead and go there first if you haven't seen

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it yet, but either way, you want to listen to

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this interview. It's such a good time. As far as

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updates go, all of my upcoming events are in that

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one graphic I said in the last episod I was

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going to make, so if you haven't seen it yet,

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it is on every social media platform at Soustal podcast

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has all my events listed, and if there are any

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updates to that list, I will.

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Be making them.

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So you can keep an eye out for annual updates

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on the show and on live events. There some really

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cool stuff coming up in the month of October, so

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make sure to check those out and I hope I

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can see you there. Otherwise, I hope you enjoyed today's episode.

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Without further Ado. Here's my conversation with Anastasia Garcia. Welcome back, girlfriends,

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please join me in giving a spooky chilling, a ghostly

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ghastly welcome, if you will, to our guest today, Anastasia Garcia. Anastasia,

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thank you so much for being here today. Rietus applause,

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airhorns everything. I'm so excited to chat with you and

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to introduce you to anybody who may have not heard

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about you. Could you do us the honor and just

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kind of tell us who you are, what you do,

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and a little bit about your background.

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Yeah.

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So, my name's Anastasia Garcia. I am a Mexican American

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horror writer. I also write speculative fiction. So this is

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my first time publishing a book. So I have lots

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of short fiction that features in podcasts, in anthologies out

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there in the world, but I just published my first book,

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Ghostly Ghastly Tales. And where I'm from and a little

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bit of my background. I'm from Texas, originally from South Texas.

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I grew up around the area of Goalie At, Texas

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if you're familiar, and that area is very much steeped

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in Texas history, battles, conflicts of the wild, West and

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that significantly influenced my writing.

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My love of horror.

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And now I'm based in New York City where I

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work at for a day job and write books in

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the dark.

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It's always people say, it's always the.

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Thing that you do from the five to nine, right,

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Like that is like where the real passion lies. Not

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to say anything about day jobs, you know, because I

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know I like my day job too, but you know

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the thing you go home to after working a full

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day and saying, all right, let me get to it.

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That's amazing already, such an inspiration someone who does something similar.

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You know, I work full time and susto's what I do,

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you know once I clock out, So thank you for

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doing that work. And I have here for anybody who

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is watching on Patreon best school friends. I have the

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book right here with me.

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This is the book.

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And a little fun fact, I'm going to put a

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picture up as well. The book Actually these parts glow

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in the dark and it looks so cool.

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The first thing I.

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Did when I got my copy was I of course

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took it out, flip through the pages, and I have

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a little like.

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Black light flashlights.

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Yes, yeah, I just show it all over and it

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looked so so cool like that.

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Yeah, definitely, here's the book.

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If you all are wondering about it, could you tell

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us about Ghostly Ghastly tells.

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Yeah.

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So this book is a collection of twenty two short

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horror stories specifically for young readers, so that's the age

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range of like eight to twelve years old. All of

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the stories in the book are based in folklore and

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mythology from around the world. Included in the book are

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little notes of horror history, and in the back there's

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like a note section for those like dark academia, people

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like me who love to find out.

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More about where the stories came from.

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And I also include little fear meters in the book,

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so I know when kids approach a scary story book,

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they're like, is it scary?

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How scary is this?

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I mean the cover is pretty scary, so maybe kids

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when they first open it aren't sure. But in the

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book there's also little fear meters that show you each

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story from one to three how scary it might be.

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I will say some people have already like it's it's

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controversial my my rating system, because apparently what's scary to

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me is not what's scared everybody else.

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Yeah, no, I totally get that.

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Some people ask me about the show and the stories

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that I tell, and I'm like, yeah, this story is

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it's kind of spooky, you know, it got me a

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little bit. And then someone replies and they're like, I

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couldn't finish listening to it. So I mean, I love

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that those little details in your book were so fun

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to see. Again, that scare meter, those little three triangles.

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Of course, I was flipping through and looking at all

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the three yeah, the scariest ones and going through those,

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and then those little tidbits of you know, attention to

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history and folkalore at the end of those. I think,

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you know, anybody who listens to Susto knows that. I

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just mmmm, that's my favorite thing. I love diving into that.

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So it feels like.

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Such a such an appropriate relationship.

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I will say, is this book and Susto so again,

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I'm going to keep saying it over and over. This

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book is so cool and I encourage everybody, not only

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young readers, but again adults to look at this book

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exactly exactly. So, speaking of young readers, how do you

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balance writing horror for them, like making it spooky but

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still kind of age appropriate?

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If you will.

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Yeah.

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So when I was a kid reading scary stuff, which

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I loved every book I could get my hands on,

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I was trying to read so at that meant I

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read Stephen King and Anne Rice like when I was

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a little, tiny child. So when I was a kid,

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I kind of disliked two things. One was being talked

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down to or treated like a baby. I kept thinking,

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I'm a big kid, I'm older, I can take things.

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And I also really didn't like happy endings treating like

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a baby. Like I feel like what scares kids also

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scares adults, but what scares adults is kind of wrapped

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up in like adult drama, relationships, life, financial struggle, et cetera.

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Like there's a lot of like drama and stresses that

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adults take on that kind of colors fear and scary things.

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So for kids, you kind of strip out some of

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those things the big adult dramas. You obviously exclude things

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that are too sensational and too titillating, but you anchor

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it in real fears. We're all still scared of the

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same things. Plus, I think that kids have dealt with

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some pretty heavy things and they you don't have to

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tiptoe around some things, some things kids want to confront

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head on. So as much as I like tried, you

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simplify things and you make things a little easier one, two, three.

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For kids in a book, it's still really like beaty,

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scary things and then happy endings. For me, like most kids,

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book end and happy endings. Cartoons end and happy endings,

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you kind of just restart. But for me, what was

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kind of important when I wrote this book is some

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stories end and happy endings, but not all of them.

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I really never liked when books are scary things pulled

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their punches and like made things wrap up in a

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happy ending. It didn't feel real to me. The steaks

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were a little too light. So even if someone survives

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a scary story, you know for sure that they're fully

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changed as individuals and people. So I wanted to make

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sure that that was captured in here. So some stories

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end on a happy note and some don't. Own that's

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kind of life to me. That's why I always thought

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Goosebumps was for babies.

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I really I appreciate that.

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I mean as someone again who is also at the

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public library reading books about the Zodiac Killer when I

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should not have been holding those books.

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At all.

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I appreciate that and kind of allowing again with that

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scare meter system, allowing young readers to kind of choose

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their own adventure, which also I think is great because

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then you know, if you're concerned about your young reader,

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you can get this book and start them off with

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maybe something that's on the one scale, and this book

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will then last you a long time as they get

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braver and more willing to confront certain things. So, speaking

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of that, like sort of confronting you know, real life

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realities and real life horrors, if you will, do you

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think that horror can be a tool for young readers

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or readers in general to explore our fears and to

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learn about bravery and resilience.

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Definitely, definitely. I think that's why some people gravitate towards horror.

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It's a safe to kind of enjoy something that's kind

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of scary and oh my god, the stakes are so

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high life or death, and then you get to just

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kind of like close the book and move on. I

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think books especially help us become more empathetic people in general.

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You have to as a reader, you have to fully

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immerse yourself in someone else's life.

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Their experiences.

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You have to feel what they feel so that the

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book at the end you know you've got resolution. And

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so to do that, you have to be empathetic, you

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have to be able to sit in someone else's shoes.

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So horror books, books.

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Especially for kids, help you tackle really scary things in

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a safe space. If at any point you feel like

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the emotions are too high or I can't deal with this,

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you can close the book physically, put it down, walk away,

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enjoy something else in the rest of life, and then

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like slowly approach when you want to again. And it

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allows you to kind of see the scary parts, talk

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about the scary parts. I think books too, because you

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get to share the stories with others. Everybody gets to

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read the same book and experience the same thing.

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You can then talk about it.

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With other people, and it allows you to like unpack

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feelings that maybe you didn't know you have. So I

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think it's a great a great safe space to enjoy

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scary things, try out what you would or wouldn't do

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in a life or death situation and think it through

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in a lot of different ways, in a safe way.

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So definitely building that resilience, that bravery, that confidence in yourself.

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Yeah, absolutely, I think it's a really useful tool. I remember,

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and I mentioned this book a lot of the time,

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and you may have seen it too growing up that

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I have it on my shelf over here. But that

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Orange book of the Stories that Must Not Die. Yeah,

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so I read that book, or it was read to

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us in elementary I love that and you know, it

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has those stories Laodona Dancing with the Devil litusas like

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ghost stories and other not spooky folklore stories. But they

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were kind of using these stories to teach us reading

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comprehension because the book was in English and Spanish, and

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at the end of each story there was a set

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of questions, so it was teaching us, you know, of

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course reading apprehension, to think critically or to start thinking

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critically at a very young age. So I think, why

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not make it entertaining, why not make it as engaging

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as possible. I've said this too many times. I feel

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like connecting on a level of fear is a very

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strong way to connect with people.

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It's a very strong thing to feel.

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you know. I love going a haunted house, an amusement park,

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haunted house. Don't get me in a real one, because

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I think I think it's a very useful tool.

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be a little older, they want to test their metal

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a little bit more. They want to be big kids,

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they want to be adults. They want to say I

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could totally do that, And scary stuff is the edge

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of that, right, Like they get to go ooh, that

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was too scary, I'm gonna take a step back, or

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I want more of that.

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I feel I want to try more.

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So I do think like horror is on the edge

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over here where everything else kind of plays in the middle,

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safe space, fun space, and horror is like are you

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ready for something new? And kids like want to prove

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it that they can't. I can read that book, I

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can take that, I can do that, I can go

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to a haunted house.

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So yeah, kids love that.

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I mean I've already showed the book, but also looking

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inside the book, and there's some of these illustrations on

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your website as well. These are amazing beautiful illustrations, so

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huge shout out to Tao Scafa. So Tao Scafa is

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the illustrator of this book, who did an amazing job.

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There are over twenty two full color illustrations. How did

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you collaborate with him to bring, you know, the horror

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of these stories to life visually? And do you think

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it's important for artwork to kind of enhance the atmosphere

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or the experience.

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Taos from Europe, so he's lived kind of all over

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the world, and he's just kind of like this mysterious

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enigma to me.

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I'm like, what comes out of your brain?

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GiB Smith, the publisher of the book, is actually small publisher,

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and therefore they allowed me to be part of the colla.

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They allowed me to collaborate a lot more closely with

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Tao as the illustrator than most publishers allow you to do.

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So this was a very huge opportunity for me.

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I thought. They allowed me to submit some illustrators that

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I like to start, so I wrote the book and

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then they were like, give us some illustrators. You like.

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The illustrators I picked here a little too adult.

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They were like, we kind of want this book to

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be a little bit for kids, so we had to

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like scale it back a bit, and I was like,

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that's cool.

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I respect that. So they gave me a list of like.

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Illustrators that that are skilled in the art of like

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children's and picture and art and illustration, digital illustrations specifically,

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so that I could kind of peruse. And while I

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was going through the illustrators, they allowed you to go

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through their portfolios, and so when I.

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Found Tao, I was like, he's different.

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Deep in his portfolio like kids stuff, cool, cute, adorable,

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high color, high profile kid stuff. And then in the

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back of his portfolio were monsters with teeth, red eyed,

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floating creatures, found footage, monsters in the woods. And I

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was like, oh, this guy likes to draw horror, but

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he does his day job is kid's books. So I

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shared with him for each story, a mood board for

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each story, a one line synopsis of each like kind

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of where it was going, and like a one line

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double click on the main character and the location because

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they're kind of specific to each story. And then he

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shared his initial sketches, which were basically fully flushed out

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amazing things.

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I got to go in and comment.

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A little bit and push a little bit, but like

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instantly there was a full book and all these illustrations

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were there, and then he made the cover, which is

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truly fantastic, beyond what I imagine.

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For a cover of a book, So it was really amazing.

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And then having tail like he has a more modern

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eye for what kids like to look at, color, spatial play,

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digital artwork.

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That's different. It's very contemporary.

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It doesn't look like anything that I was familiar with

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as a kid, and I feel like it hopefully will

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resonate with like kids nowadays and what they see, and

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it'll book and feel hopefully like some kids can find

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some illustration that really speaks to them in the story.

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There's really scary ones and then I think there's some

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like softer ones.

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Absolutely, If if anybody wants to, you can find to

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on Instagram at at Tao Scoffa, and I'll throw that

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up here for the video as well, because yeah, that's

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I went, of course immediately went to his Instagram as.

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Well, and I was like, whoa this is? I honestly

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might honestly hit him up.

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For some new Oh my goodness, I have something to

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share as well, he drew. So I commissioned a piece

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of artwork of me. He drew me in his style.

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I'll post that on Instagram so you can see. But

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that was to me a true collectible and I'm gonna

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love that for the rest of my life.

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Wow, what an honor. That is so so cool.

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Yeah, his art style is it's amazing. And again it

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just it truly added to the overall kind of experience

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that you're writing offers. So it's such like a great

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partnership there again, moving back to kind of like the

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experience of reading the book and self and reading horror.

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Horror off teaches important life lessons through cautionary tales and

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the like, what are some life lessons or maybe moral

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themes that you hope readers take away from ghostly ghastly tales?

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So I think there are two big ones, two ones

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that like really really speak to me and I hope

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speak to kids as well. One of them is like,

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you have to be smart, skilled, and like a little

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lucky to survive to the end of a story. I

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did mention that, like, not all stories have happy endings,

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and so some not all.

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Kids in the stories.

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Are smart, are listening, are thinking it through, are skilled,

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have the skills necessary or even the little bit of

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luck that helps them survive all the way to the end.

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So if you want to survive in life.

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Or in your scary story, like make sure you're smart,

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make sure you build up those skills, and then make

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sure you're like a little tiny bit lucky to make

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it to the end. So I think that surviving to

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the end of the story is key. And then I

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think the second one, which really probably speaks to a

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lot of what your podcast is is listen to your

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elders so much we can learn from both our grandparents,

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our theos or theas, our cousins, our older friends, like

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people who have life experience as a kid, you think

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I know what I'm doing.

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I don't need to listen to anybody else.

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But you'll notice that in the book, like sprinkled throughout

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there were like older people who are like handing down

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life lessons or skills or stories that if you just

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listen and are willing to learn, might help you through

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life different difficult passages and choices.

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Yeah, through the scary story of yea life, I love that.

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I feel like that's gonna have to be a short

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or something like life is a scary story. Yeah, were

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there any stories from the book that or maybe your

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favorites or kind of stood out to you, and could

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you talk about the folklore or the myth behind that story.

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Yeah, there are so many of my favorites in here.

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Sweet Treats, which is based on this one's very easy.

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Sweet Treats is essentially a sweet shot pops up in

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a small, little European town and the kids are excited

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about all the sweets, but there's a mysterious dark ingredient

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to where these treets are coming from.

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I'll leave it at that.

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That's obviously based on Hansel and Gretel, the story of

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the witch who makes a bunch of a candy house

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that invites all the children in that one's very simple.

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That's a very familiar folklore that I think people have

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read and know and understand. And in this I was

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also watching a lot of Great British baking show at

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the same time I was writing, so all mixed in together.

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So that's one that I really love in the collection.

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But I will double click on another one called Little Playthings.

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So this one is about a child who sneaks into

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a toy shop to meet the mysterious toy maker who

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makes all of these great kind of like clockwork toys.

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So this story, it's.

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Not necessarily folcal or, but it's based on a point

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in history that was kind of eerie and kind of

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creepy as I was reading through it.

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So in the seventeen hundreds.

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I should say the most sophisticated technology of the time

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was actually clockwork, so very much like we have AI today.

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Clockwork was their version of that. They didn't know how

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it works. There was very skilled craftsmen who made it.

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Carved clocks, tiny pocket watches were all moved by tiny

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gears and cogs and complex inner workings, and the world's

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best clockmakers.

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The way they would.

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Show off their skill was that they would build these

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elaborate mechanisms based on clockwork. So in Switzerland specifically, there

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was this family called the Jacques Dreuse family, which were

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a family of clockmakers that created these like lifelike.

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Human esque creations out of clockwork.

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Something about that is like Uncanny Valley, right, Like there's

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something about like oh, so they actually made children sized.

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Creations.

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One could play the organ with fingers, so they could

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actually play songs with their fingers, terrifying. One could draw

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like they would put a pencil in its hand, and

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put a piece of paper and it would draw different artwork.

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You just set play and it would so. And then

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there was another one that could actually.

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Write full letters.

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If you gave it like a goose feather and ink,

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it would essentially write a full letter from start to finish.

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And these are these are real things that were made real.

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They exist, they're out there, they're out there.

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So like the idea of that was terrifying, like what

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they can make things do that? What else could you

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make kids like little lifel like creatures do? So that

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inspired this short story. It's very small, very tight about

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a toy shop. Wow.

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Wow, truly God, Yeah, and I love that also, I

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just I don't know if I mentioned it earlier, but

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these stories they're based on folklore and events and history

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from around the world. So again, that's one of my

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favorite things to do on the show, is to find

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something from another part of the world and kind of

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relate it to maybe my own experience or to a

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story that I've covered on the show before, or a

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potential story to cover. So yeah, this is this is

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a really also fun way to learn about culture, not

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only learning about you know, ourselves and horror and how

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we process that, but also you know, other cultures in

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the world.

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So another.

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Another reason to give this book, you know five five

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out of five booze or something.

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Yes, five out of five boos I hope and that

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that was also to me too as a kid. I

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was also a library kid that spent a lot of

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time in libraries, reading and trying to learn about everything

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outside of my small town Texas. And I hope this

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book gives you if you never travel to these parts

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of the world, the Philippines, Switzerland, the the Alps, like

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you know, any of these monsters, you know, cool interesting places,

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you can always open a book and find it, whether

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it's this book or any book in the library. That

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that was something that was very important to me was

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the access that books give you as a kid.

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I love that.

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That's so like that tugs at my heart strings, you know,

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making the world accessible, you know, with just you know,

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a pile of paper, right, It's like the doors that

484
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.960
that can open and the kind of the ripples that

485
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.160
it can create. You know, I read books like this

486
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.920
when I was a kid. So I'm so excited for

487
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.279
another little weirdo out there to grab your book and

488
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.599
to be inspired and to see what they come up with.

489
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:22.720
It's all very, very exciting.

490
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.319
And so, you know, speaking of our background and our upbringing,

491
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.680
we're both Texas ghoulies, and Texas has such a rich

492
00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:48.079
history and folklore.

493
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:49.359
Are there any.

494
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:54.960
Texas specific ghosts or cryptids or any legends that particularly

495
00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.880
stand out to you and that maybe you think are

496
00:23:58.079 --> 00:23:59.519
underappreciated in a sense.

497
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.200
Yeah.

498
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.880
So I in the book, I touch on Laidona. She's

499
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.160
in here, so there's a whole story on that. But

500
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.319
she obviously is kind of like the star of Texas folklore.

501
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:12.200
She gets her own movie.

502
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:15.880
She's the Beyonce Ye ghost if you will, if you.

503
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.880
Will, So she gets her own movies, she gets everything.

504
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.680
But I think my favorite short, like like like urban

505
00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:26.160
legend I should say, from Texas was actually, have you

506
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.759
covered this the San Antonio school bus massacre?

507
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:33.680
Yeah, yeah, I've heard. Is that the one with the

508
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:35.160
railroad truck?

509
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:38.759
Yes, I haven't covered it yet, Okay, in future, Yeah,

510
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.759
definitely in the future, possibly a visit to the site itself.

511
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.359
Well, we shall see, Yes, just.

512
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:46.599
To quickly touch on it, that was one of my

513
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.079
favorites San Antonio. There's a school bus, there's a railroad track,

514
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.920
apparently where a school bus of children was crossing and

515
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:55.720
was hit by a trained and brutally murdered in a

516
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.559
dark and dangerous way. And now everyone says that if

517
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.480
you dry your car a night and you approach that

518
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.359
railroad station, you park on the train tracks, that something

519
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.200
will push you to safety off the train. I've also

520
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.319
heard it told that if you sprinkle a little baby

521
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.160
powder on the back of the car, you will find

522
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.279
tiny little handprints that helped push your car to safety.

523
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.240
So that to me was always terrifying one because you're

524
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.039
a kid who rides a school bus and goes, wait

525
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:24.079
a minute, I can.

526
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.079
Die whoa hold on pause?

527
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:27.920
Yeah, terrifying.

528
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:31.079
And then obviously like the the the way I heard

529
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:33.799
it was very urban legendie so and So's cousin went

530
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:35.839
to go there and saw it the other night, just

531
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:37.480
two weeks ago, you know, and so that.

532
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.839
If I was there and they pissed her car.

533
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.880
Exactly and so fell very close to homes that one

534
00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:48.240
I love. And I just never haven't seen that around yet.

535
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.839
Have you visited those tracks? Before I smell a trip,

536
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.119
I start a road trip. Yeah, I definitely remember hearing

537
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.559
that story growing up, growing up as well, I had

538
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.839
never been so thankful to be a pick up drop off,

539
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.319
yeah kid in that moment.

540
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:08.039
Yeah, such a good one, for sure.

541
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.400
There was also there was a similar one that happened

542
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.799
somewhere in the Rio Grande Valley where the bus was

543
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.599
it allegedly drove off into this kind of like water reservoir.

544
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.400
And so now that whole areas is said to be haunted.

545
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.000
All I need to I can't remember what city it

546
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.319
happened in, but anyone from the Organda Valley, if you're

547
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.359
hearing this and you know where it's at, please let

548
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.759
us know because similar story with you know, a bus

549
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:35.440
full of children. You know what is more sad and

550
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.839
traumatic than that, right, losing so many young innocent lives

551
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.880
and then the stories that kind of come from that.

552
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.119
But yeah, definitely those those tracks in San Antonio is

553
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.839
a very popular one that I will cover in the

554
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.160
future for sure. So on the other side of this,

555
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.960
you know, horror is often kind of dismissed as just

556
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.119
purely just for entertainment purposes, there's nothing deeper behind it.

557
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.799
Do you think that horror does play a role in

558
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.400
reflecting on I mean, we're already talking about it on

559
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:10.880
societal fears and cultural illnesses or issues rather, especially within

560
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.240
the Latina community.

561
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:18.640
Yeah, definitely, I think the Latin community, for me, is

562
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.559
very steeped into supernatural.

563
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.640
I don't know how.

564
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.240
I mean, obviously it's in your podcast, so I know,

565
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.240
But so much of just the stories we tell with

566
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.599
each other, the myth, the legends, the history is all

567
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.000
steeped in something kind of slightly supernatural. There's healing, there's prayer,

568
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.880
there's all kinds of like power that we find in

569
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.960
the spaces that we live and kind of like the

570
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.519
communities that we build around us. So to me, the

571
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.759
supernatural very prevalent in just our culture, in our community,

572
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.559
And so the idea that like horror, which is one

573
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.640
step beyond now we've got vampires and monsters and ghulis

574
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.799
and spooks, is very close. And so't it wasn't that

575
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.400
far of a departure to like make horror such a

576
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.599
big part of our community. And I do agree that

577
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.880
like horror is usually treated as kind of like a

578
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.400
like a funny, silly, la ha like genre and it's

579
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.319
not that serious, it's never literary, et cetera. But to me,

580
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.519
horror is on the bleeding edge of culture. Here it

581
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:18.839
writers of horror tackling new fears that plague us like

582
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.200
every day, and that can include old fears that are

583
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.640
very familiar to us, you know, man versus nature, man

584
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:28.359
versus man, man versus monster, but then it also plagues

585
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.640
like new fears all the time. That can include things

586
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.160
like like climate change, like watching our communities change. It

587
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:40.480
can include toxic love, changing roles within a home. It

588
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.680
can talk about war, It can talk about disease. It

589
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.559
can talk about technology. It can talk about human brutality

590
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.519
against each other. Or it could even just like the fear,

591
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:53.319
can just be a place unknown. It can be flesh

592
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.079
and blood like someone you know. It can be an

593
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.079
unfathomable cosmic entity.

594
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.279
It can be a thing, a feeling, a.

595
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.480
Place like Horror lives in all of these places. So

596
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.799
to me, yes, it's entertainment, but it really is dredging

597
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.759
up some of these things that we carry with us

598
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.119
from generation to generation.

599
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:13.920
And I love that.

600
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.400
Horror allows us a space to kind of play with it,

601
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.160
deal with it, approach it, uncover it, and kind of

602
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:24.119
tackle it together as like readers and as a community.

603
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:25.559
Yeah, definitely.

604
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.319
Also I like that you mentioned that it's not like

605
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.640
the love or the appreciation of horror is not a

606
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.519
far card from the way that many of us were raised.

607
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:40.160
My kind of working theory around that is because a lot,

608
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.680
if not the majority, of Latina people are raised in

609
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.480
the church, are raised Catholic. And so I've always said

610
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.680
that Catholicism is it's inherently spooky. You're telling me that

611
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.640
we gather as a as a group, as a coven

612
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.880
once a week and we chant and we sing and

613
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.039
we praise a deity who is who came back to

614
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.680
life and is also by the way, hanging on the

615
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.319
wall above us with blood dripping down like that, is

616
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.920
that is horror? Like of course we're like.

617
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.920
Oh, yeah, no, I love this too, exactly so.

618
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.720
And then but but don't go into hot topic because aos.

619
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.799
But you better believe believe that we're going to be

620
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.640
lighting our candles, yes, and maybe even going to get

621
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.599
our cards read, depending on what kind of Catholic you are.

622
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.519
Yes, I think Catholicism and just like Christianity and religion

623
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.119
is one way of approaching kind of like the fears

624
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.640
and the unknown of the world, and yes, many of

625
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.240
us did and the like there's so many and like

626
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.160
everything it's just like a general appreciation that there's other

627
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.920
worldly effects taking place every day, that our prayers have

628
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.920
power and meaning, whether it's praying to a religion specific

629
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.160
god or just praying for the safety of our family,

630
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.480
like that has power. And yeah, just like somehow that's

631
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.359
all just built into how we were raised. Very all

632
00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.759
of that was very real to us.

633
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.160
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, and I'm sure it applies to

634
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.759
many other religions, but it's just again, that's.

635
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.279
That was my experience. That's what I know.

636
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.880
So I'm like, yeah, I remember, it's like I'm eating it.

637
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:15.519
Yeah, you have blood? What this is heavy metal? So true.

638
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.599
I remember being a kid being like, can you explain

639
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.839
the Seven Deadly Sins one more time? Yeah?

640
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:21.039
Please, I need to run down.

641
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:22.880
Uh.

642
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.319
So, Anastosia, have you had.

643
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.880
Your own encounters with the paranormal?

644
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.880
Yes, I think I think everyone.

645
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:32.119
I think.

646
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.359
I don't know, maybe it's just everyone. My whole family.

647
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.079
We spent so much time sitting around a bonfire when

648
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.720
the sun was setting, and that she chatted their humming

649
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.519
in the distance like that was very familiar to me,

650
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.079
and everyone in my family somehow had a.

651
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:47.880
Brush with the paranormal. In some regards.

652
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.079
So these were just stories we shared after dinner, just

653
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.319
like casual. And I'll share one story. I've had so many,

654
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.559
like you know, footstep, myospheries, footsteps, haunted houses that I've

655
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.960
lived in, doors opening sounds in the distance. But there's

656
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.480
one that's very Texas that I'll share with this group

657
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.519
and let me see if I can, let me see

658
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.200
if I can find Okay, I just had some notes

659
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.680
on like trying to remember setting my stage. Yeah, this,

660
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.200
this story actually inspired one of the stories in here.

661
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:18.839
This one of the stories called the Drums of War

662
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.559
is about a girl who visits a haunted battle site

663
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.440
and like slips into the time, slip back in time.

664
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.279
And so when I was younger, I don't know if you,

665
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.759
or maybe lots of little Texas kids visited a battlefield.

666
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.359
There were many of them in Texas. A battlefield and

667
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:36.920
the field that we visited when I was a kid.

668
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.359
I'm not going to say which one because I kind

669
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.200
of want every Texas kid to feel like it's the

670
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.359
one right next to them. Most of the battlefields are

671
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.640
just generally open fields. The one I went to had

672
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.640
like little pavilions and picnic tables and like a visitor

673
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.079
center and it had like a giant circle driveway that

674
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:56.559
had a bunch of trees, and we went we saw everything,

675
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.200
and everybody was getting ready to load up to go

676
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.559
back on the buses. And for a minute, cousin and

677
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.960
I kind of like wandered off, which is obviously the

678
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.400
first step in a horror movie, right, We wandered off,

679
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.000
and we were kind of playing and we were talking,

680
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:11.000
we're laughing, we're just joking around, totally not looking for

681
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.720
anything scary. And for a minute, it uh, it got

682
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.519
supper quiet. We couldn't see the busses anymore, and everything

683
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.200
came way down. It's like all the sounds that the

684
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.960
kids were gone. There were no there was no wind

685
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.559
in the trees, there were no leaves, there was nothing.

686
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.039
And it felt weird.

687
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:33.359
It feel for that moment like, wait, something's wrong, something's

688
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:34.000
a little off.

689
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:36.799
And I had.

690
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.839
This feeling like somebody was watching us. And obviously we

691
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:41.440
were in a group full of kids, but somehow we

692
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.000
were on our own, and all of a sudden, it

693
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.680
felt like someone was watching us. And I was looking

694
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.039
around for a minute, like is something weird? Am I

695
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.519
just feeling something strange? And in the trees. All the

696
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.599
trees that lined the driveway of this thing was filled

697
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:01.279
with blackbirds, hundreds of them, but not making any sound,

698
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.319
no cawing, no birds, no feathers, nothing.

699
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.119
And I was like, oh, no, something's happening.

700
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.039
It's like there was a there was a feeling, a

701
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.800
palpable feeling of like something is wrong. And I was like,

702
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.000
am I going nuts? But then I looked over to

703
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.760
my cousin and she's looking at me too, and the

704
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.079
both of us are like, something is happening, something weird

705
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:22.440
is going on. All of a sudden, sound came back

706
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.880
in the sound of footsteps in the grass, and we

707
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:28.960
were looking around like where is that coming from? And

708
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.119
then another set of footsteps and then crunch, crunch, crunch,

709
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.079
Cuntry County country, country, crunch, hundreds of footsteps all around us,

710
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:41.000
and we booked it. I was like, I don't know

711
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.119
what it was, where it was. We went flying back

712
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:44.599
to the school of us. We were like, do not

713
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:45.239
separate us.

714
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:45.920
We're going home.

715
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:51.000
But something about like the dead silence, the fear that

716
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.239
there was no sound happening, and then the first thing

717
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.599
we hear is footsteps lots terrifying.

718
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.440
Oh my god, that sent a chill up my spot

719
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.039
and just yeah, I think something that I think is

720
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.159
very clear to anyone who listens to Sustore or maybe

721
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.639
who even also just loves I'll say ghost Stories is

722
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.400
the tie between history.

723
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:18.599
And the paranormal is very real.

724
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.280
The tie between trauma and the paranormal is very very real.

725
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:26.800
I'd say that almost every episode. But yeah, because of

726
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.519
history and major events in history, and so I think

727
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:31.519
that's why when you if you've ever done any of

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those like haunted bar crawls in major cities, it's always

729
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somewhere historic, and so it ends up being like a

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history tour. But I'm like, yeah, that makes perfect sense,

731
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of course, Like you know, these long standing places or

732
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places where big events happen, it makes total sense that

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there would be activity there.

734
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Yeah.

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I think places have memory and they carry the trauma

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of let's say an event or just the weight of

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the mini live that have affected it. If energy is

738
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something that we give off in something that when we

739
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die just dissipates into the universe like there, I think

740
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places can hold.

741
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On to that like a sponge.

742
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And in that moment I really felt it like this

743
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place has a memory and this is what I'm feeling.

744
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.079
I love that. Oh my god.

745
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:19.840
Thank you well, thank you so so so much for

746
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being here today, for sharing with us, and before you

747
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.800
let people know where they can follow you and find

748
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:32.519
your book, we do have a very special announcement. I

749
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.079
guess you could say this is actually a second copy

750
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.719
that you sent me, because we are giving it away

751
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.800
to one very lucky winner, and this is a signed

752
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.159
copy and they will also be getting a pack of

753
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.760
stickers that you sent with this. So make sure that

754
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.039
you follow both myself and Anastasia on social media to

755
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.239
learn how to enter the giveaway.

756
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.480
That will have all the rules.

757
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And a and also the deadline for when this will

758
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.920
be happening. So thank you so much for sending this

759
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.199
over and for.

760
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:09.039
Doing this giveaway with me.

761
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.480
Can you please let people know where they can find

762
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.239
you online and where they can find Ghostly Ghastly Tales.

763
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.400
Yes, Ghostly Ghastly Tails.

764
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You can find it anywhere Amazon, Barnesmoble dot com, your

765
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.320
local bookstore if you'd like to support, Just search Ghostly

766
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.119
Ghastly Tails and you'll find us. You can find me

767
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.199
at Anastasia Rights dot com. That's my website, but I

768
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.320
also am on Instagram, That's where I'm most lively, Anastasia writes,

769
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.400
and then also on Twitter a Garcia underscore rights if

770
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.199
you so choose. But I can also share something special

771
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.079
with you as well, a new announcement. So this is

772
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.599
you might notice it says frights to tell at Night. Well,

773
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.320
this is actually book one in a series and book two.

774
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Is coming soon.

775
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:53.440
Oh my god, get breaking. You heard it here first

776
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.920
on sustill k S s t O Breaking the spooking news.

777
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.639
That is so exciting. Do you have a rough timeline

778
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:02.800
of when the second one will be?

779
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:04.599
Yeah, and the second one should be coming out? Is

780
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.199
the second one is going to be all about monsters

781
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.800
and the outdoors and it's campfire story themed.

782
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.920
So you can expect it in time for summer camp

783
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.000
next year. So get ready for summer season. It'll be

784
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:16.880
coming out next year.

785
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:17.840
Oh my god.

786
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.840
Well, congratulations and what a treat for all of us.

787
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.599
That is definitely I'm definitely looking forward to that one.

788
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.000
I will be adding it to myselves as well.

789
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.519
Well. Thank you again.

790
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:30.599
I'm sorry to take a moment.

791
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.800
Yeah, I just can I take a moment to thank

792
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:38.679
you for being such a leader amongst our community in

793
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.840
sharing these stories from generation to generation. Like I honestly

794
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.840
believe that humans have been storytellers for the end of

795
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.119
time and there are a few of us who carry

796
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.239
the torch of storytelling from generation to generation, and I

797
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.559
truly think you were one of us. You take the

798
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.400
time to gather the stories, to keep them, to retell them,

799
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.079
and keep them alive. So thank you Aiden for all

800
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.159
the work that you do on this podcast, but just

801
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.599
in life sharing the stories with the new generation.

802
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:05.960
Thank you so much.

803
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.760
I'm trying really hard not to cry because I'm a

804
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.760
chea on thank you that means so much.

805
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.199
Oh my goodness.

806
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.480
Well, if you are a best goalfriend on Patreon, Patreon

807
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.480
dot com, slash Susto podcast, you will have access to

808
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.239
some bonus content that will be coming up next. If not,

809
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.719
thank you so much for listening today and anas Sasia

810
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:27.920
one more time, thank you for being here.

811
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.199
I truly appreciate it.

812
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:30.079
Thank you every much.

813
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:46.679
Bye, Welcome back, girlfriends. So, if you are a best

814
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.960
cool friend on Patreon again, you have extra content on

815
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.800
Patreon that you can watch. If not, then you just

816
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:57.599
heard about the book giveaway. This is the signed copy

817
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:02.039
of Ghostly Ghastly Tells that Anastasia signed in here.

818
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:03.079
To give away.

819
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.679
We are doing the giveaway on Instagram, so again you

820
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.239
can visit an Asasia at at Anastasia Rights and me

821
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.079
at Sustal Podcast. We'll post a joint post on Instagram.

822
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.880
The rules I believe will be to follow each of

823
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.079
our profiles, to leave a comment of some sort and

824
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.320
just make sure you read the caption through. Follow all

825
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.800
those rules and I will announce the next winner the

826
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.960
day before the next episode, which is October tenth. As always,

827
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.880
if you have your own spooky story that you would

828
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.400
like me to share on your letters from the Beyond episode,

829
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.559
or if you have a photo, video recording anything you

830
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.880
think I should share on the socials that's at Sustal Podcast.

831
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.159
You can do so by sending it to Sustal Podcasts

832
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.000
at jenail dot com, visiting my website sustopodcast dot com,

833
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.559
hitting the contact button, or sending in a voice message

834
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.400
that way, leaving a five star rating or review on

835
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.599
Apple Podcasts, or leaving a comment on Spotify.

836
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:56.400
So many ways to do that.

837
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.159
Again, follow at sustal podcast for any on all updates

838
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.280
on the show and to catch those live events.

839
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:02.199
Final thing I will.

840
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Leave you with thank you so much to this episode's

841
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Patreon subscribers. You are Liza, Sadie, Rachel, Alejandra Luther, April, Mario, Eva,

842
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:16.360
d Josette, sam Angelo and Co, Mandy, Jules, Lori, Genie, Desiree,

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00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:27.920
Anna Ashes, Nedesa, Rachel, Asusena, Rios, Marlen, Chata, Laney, Desiree, Cynthia, Sidenai, Flamenca, Belinda, Archie, Ricardo, Sera, Anastasia,

844
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.599
Vanessa and Marisa. Thank you all so so much for

845
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:35.119
your support. It truly means the world to me. You

846
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.400
all have a good one. I have good luck in

847
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.440
the giveaway. I will talk to you in the next episode,

848
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.960
and until then notts.

849
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Bye,