Metaphysical U ft. Sara Reeves

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1:55 With all of that out of the way, let's get into today's very special episode. I am so excited. This really has been a long time coming. As with many guests, you know, I meet amazing people doing this work, and then we're like, hey, let's get together, let's do something, and you know, we get busy. We're all we're all people right living our lives. We get busy. But I'm very excited today to have Sarah Reeves, who is a intuitive and does amazing work in the metaphysical community here in Austin, Texas. So y'all are in for a real treat. We had an amazing conversation today. I'm very excited for y'all to hear more from her. Please welcome to SUSTO to your ears wherever you are listening. Sarah Reeves. First off, I want to say thank you so much for being here.

2:49 It's about time, right, it is? It is. Yeah, every time we see each other, we're like, we gotta do this, Like we got to get together, we got to talk, get on the pods, and then you know, life just and. Then life just goes. Yeah, but it's okay. We found a time. Universe said right now. The timing is right. I feel like it's meant to be something that's going to happen. And hey, I we're here in this incredible space now. So I think it's very much. It was meant to happen. It was meant to happen. It was meant to happen. I wasn't going to have you in my little tiny home office guest room studio. I wouldn't have minded when I. Thank you so much. Well for listeners, for viewers who may not know what you do, can you please share what you're all about, what being an intuitive is about, and what your work looks like.

3:35 Oh, it's craziness, it's a lot of fun. So I am Sarah Reeves. I am an intuitive here working out of Austin, Austin area. I guess if we look at it everywhere, being an intuitive, what I say what I do is mostly teach now because I really found that my journey to be where I'm at now was really hard to do. It was hard to find information. It was hard to find the right people, the language, the you know, just all the technical language behind the metaphysical framework and you know, are you clairvoyant? Are you a psychic? Or are you a medium? Are you a thing? Right? Really understanding how it all fits together was hard. It was a lot harder to find supporting information for things that I already understood, I knew how to do, but needed the guidance of what the experience was fully like for somebody who had been doing it for much longer than me. Right, It was just one of those things, and that I so I decided, you know what I need to teach because I share anyway, right, I like to share the FYI do this fun thing I just learned, right, and it just kind of came into the natural balance.

4:41 So I just was fortunate to meet Stephen through my husband, right, who was like, our house is haunted. And we will be hearing more about that later. So is that kind of how you got your foot in the door, so to speak? With like the metaphysical community here in Austin, because your Austin based were both in Austin. Hence why we see each other out on a lot. Yeah, I want to hear more about that. So it sounds like that was kind of your again your foot and the door. Was yeah, meeting, Yeah, I go to haunted House. What do I do? And that was really mostly my husband finding out, you know, finding student's team early on, you know, when they were young and cute and adorable. They were all still in college, right, and it was it was a great moment of a reminder of remember you could do this, right, remember that you could do this. You just started blocking it off. You know, I had kids, right, I had kids in the life and you know, been married, we moved like all these things, and I had not understood that it had always been part the intuitiveness, had been part of the culture, part of the way that I grew up and was always accepted but then also made fun of right at the same time. So it was really kind of fun. It was like initially it was like I know, oh my goodness, and then later on it was like, oh, yeah, you know, can you look at this thing. I was really so it was really strange to remember that that's what the foundation of who I was was and then to understand how to buy pull it out, isolate it for myself. And I

6:14 think the ice being able to pull it out, get the education isolated, find the information of the label of what it was that I did. That was the journey that I needed to kind of really understand that and building my own belief system right to behind it. Alexis was great. I from City Alchemists was like, I'm going to say, the first official mentor that I had where he understood to say historically, go look at it, Go look at it from your historical culture, Go back and look at your family, go see the stories and identify these stories as not stories but part of teaching you your intuition. So he was probably the one that put me onto the path of understanding in that way. And you know, Elaine Ironan was the one who just said, honey, you're already doing it, just go right, So she was It was just really fun to get somebody who'd been working in the industry much longer than I have to recognize and go, yeah, just go, just keep going right.

7:10 So that was really fun. So the combination of those two people really launched where I'm at today. And Stephen just put me into the public eye. Yeah, and allowed me to just be me. I you know, wasn't like here's your gimmick or here's your thing. He was like, we're going to go help someone. You'll want to come and I went, yeah, let's do it. Yeah. You were talking a bit about like kind of honing those abilities, and you talked about in the past sort of like diminishing it or trying to put a cap on those abilities, especially as a kid. And I can imagine when I talk to other people who have honed again those abilities, like when there were children that experienced being maybe frighten you just because it was unknown at the moment. But you say that in your words, at some point the metaphysical refused to be ignored. Yeah, what was that point for for you? Like? What did that was there? Was there any one experience. Was it just a culmination where you finally decided like, all right, I need to fully embrace this and go for it.

8:09 I think it was just a moment of being a little lost, And I think that's usually most you know, if I air quote the awakening right word, happened because you are a little lost somewhere found you've found yourself going, what is happening in my life right now? Like? What am I not looking at? And I think in our family at the moment, there was so many emotional things happening, so many different changes going on in all of us, that it just kicked off this crazy sensation inside that was like, this is not me right, Like I just looked at everything in a completely different light and said, this is not where I want to be, but I need to know where. And it took me a little bit to understand because I was looking external for the answer. Right.

8:54 Everybody does that, I think now. I think society teaches us to do that. Right, Oh you're not happy, go look external, go look, go look out. You know, everything is out. And it was the first moment that I realized the answer is not out, it's in and it has always been there. I was just ignoring it because I didn't want to hear the truth behind it. I didn't want to feel like I had made a mistake or that I had you know, I was too far from the redemption of my life right I needed to be able to build it in there and that came as an existential spiritual crisis for me, and I fought so hard against it because I was like, no, I don't want to do the Catholic things. No, I don't want to do that, you know. I was just fighting against the grain that I had grown up with instead of remembering that I embraced only certain pieces, and the certain pieces were okay to bring in as long as they felt good to me, and then just ignore the other ones, right, Like the other ones that don't make sense, well they don't make sense until they do, or they just never do. And so that was kind of that one emotional pivotal, great, big point in our life was what changed the direction of where I looked. But it was a lot of things. It was many losses in a short period of time frame. It was relationship issues that we had internally from Rennie and I watching our children get into an age where we were going to, i say, be discarded as parents right when it's time for them to kind of fly out of the nest.

10:17 So that it was like a just a brink of change that we had to address right or I had to address in the moment. Yeah, I was going to ask you you mentioned the Catholicism was there. Did you have a religious upbringing kid? Yeah? What was that? Like, I call it the religious strange ping pong? Right. So we come from like a heavily Hispanic family, Right, So I grew up in its Catholicism all the way. You know, you're seven, you must do your Holy First Communion, you're in your teens, you got to go to Catechism, You've got to do the things. But I was very much not necessarily against it. I was really good at pointing out the hypocrisy of it.

11:00 Love that they love that. I was like, well you said this, but you're doing that right. So it was one of those things. But at the same time, I also was so enamored by by the belief system, Like there were certain pieces of it that I just brought in and knew, yes, that works. But not only did I grow up in the Catholic environment, the kadis makticos as well. Right, My mom was part of the charismatic group that was more like an indigenous healing group, which was crazy. Right. They would have people, they'd be like, Oh, this person's not doing well, and they would get the neighborhood ladies all together and bring them, sit them in the middle of the living room, and then we would surround them and sing and move and feed them and dulse them with whatever right whatever was there, and beat them with herbs and do all this stuff to draw out whatever it was right. And that was part of how we grew up.

11:55 You know. We had a grandetta that was a grandmother for us and taught down these things as part of everyday life, not not part of herkud on, that dismal practice, if that makes sense. It was like, oh, you're sick, strapped the potatoes on, right, or you this you you know, do the things that she would teach us with scary stories, right, like you know, all the things that we grew up with, all these weird stories that blend. Now when I go back and look, it's a blend of indigenous story and that in that time, that modern culture view for them, they blended it together to teach us lessons and still weaved in like oh, if you take you know, ginger, it draws out pain, or if you do that, like there was all kind of weaved in on top of there is only one God, right, believe in Jesus and do the thing and it was just crazy. It was a crazy mix of belief and I think that's why I have like this openness to it.

12:54 Depending only that like that folk Catholicism, Yes, and I love that, Oh yeah, I love it. As someone who is like really expanded my own like beliefs and practices, I do find myself gravitating to some of those things, and I'm like, why can't I let go of it? But I don't know. I still don't have a solid answer for it. But it's always funny when I meet other people, especially other Latino people who are very into like spirituality and the metaphysical, and I'm like Catholic, right, and they're like, yeah, but there's also something I think, just like I always say this that there's like Catholicism. I think it's inherently like spooky. It's inherently scary, you know, like it's it's I believe it's a form many you could say about many religions, but it's a form of like witchcrafft. You know, you gather with your congregation, your coven once a week, you seeing you pray, so you do spells and there's all these rituals and then you're eating symbolically the flesh and the blood of your deity.

13:47 And then the whole time he's hanging up, literally hanging out. I'm like, yeah, of course, you know, many of us become interested in, you know, the expanded version of this, the add ons, you know, the accessories to. H To me, it was always like a unique like it's a unique creation story, right, that's kind of how I look at it. And then when when we're looking at it, life before Jesus, right, great creation story kind of this way that early on humans would have to explain their life. You know that was hard back then, right, And it was hard back then and still trying to keep order, and then you know, adding Jesus, and it was like giving you this hope that none of that really was. It was hard, yes, but it's not set in stone. And I think that was the beauty behind saying it's not set in stone, and you don't have to look at others for that kind of leadership. You need to look within and then what tells you inside be kind to someone else? Just follow that, right, And I thought that was like such a simple way of looking at the world. But then when I started kind of looking at other cultures. When I got into my ministry and I started learning all of the things that built the story, a history behind why the story was built. Right, it was like it was designed to control, it was designed to do weird stuff, right, it's according to history.

15:04 But every culture has this creation story that's so similar that it has the similar love and the intention and that they heal through plants, nature each other. So I was like, this is not it's not just one thing. It's all these things together and everybody is meant to learn a story that keeps them on the straight and narrow, if you will, or keep them balanced within their own their own shadow frame. Right. Yeah, I think especially now to you you kind of alluded to it just now about like people needing that hope, and I think that has happened many times throughout history when things get really rough and really dicey, and we can say it now, you know, it's a really really scary time. There's a lot of it's messed up stuff happening currently. And so I want to say I've seen something about that in a study that anytime there's a spike in like negative sentiment or like strife, like communal strife in a nation, like the interest in religion and in spirituality, and specifically like the paranormal It there's a spike in it, Yeah, because people are they're looking for answers.

16:17 They're looking how to explain what is happening in the physical world, or they're looking, like you said, for that hope for something to a lot of chions so that they can say, I can I can look away to this and look for greater meaning to what is happening yep, yeah, or. I can understand what do I do? I think a lot I come across a lot of that question with clients, with students. I can see that everything is in a disarray right like the world is crazy right now, and we don't It's weird because within our communities we don't feel like because we don't think that way. But then we're being pumped full of the knowledge of everything around us saying no, we are divided or we are you know, this craziness is happening, and their need to want to do something surfaces. What do I do I am? They see themselves, is I'm this little drop in an ocean of water, and what can I do? And it's that sensation that it's like now go within, stop looking at what you can do externally, and go inside and let the inside drive what you're gonna do with the next drop of water next to you and the next one next to you, and keep it small. Eventually there'll be so many pools of water. We just connect and that connection overwhelms the smaller connection of the bad that's going on, and I think it just vibrationally just shifts it and then hope happens. Right, So that's me just thinking that's how it's That's how it's always worked. The spikes are to unite the hope and then hopefully out of that something big just trumps whatever's going on. So historically that's kind of what's happened.

17:47 Yeah, Yeah, and that sounds beautiful. I love that. We're going to take your break on that one. Absolutely. We are back speaking of intuition and me, for some reason, always calling out the name married to you. I don't know why to do that. I don't know why I do that, But you have expressed before that intuition is it's not as much of a gift that people might say. It is that everyone at some level has intuition, right, And there's probably a lot of people that may not understand that, or may deny it and say like, no, I just like I don't have any of that ability.

18:37 You can't live if you don't have it. Yeah, I want to hear more about that. Derive it. Right. Everybody is intuitive. It's just the level of intuition is depending on what you want to pay attention to. Right. So everybody's intuitive because we all have fight or flight, we all have the need to survive, we all have the need to understand. We want to live, we want to be okay, and we are going to rely on the environment to give us the signals that say you're okay, right, or to say, hey, you're in danger, move this way. So if we think about removing the concrete, right, removing all the stuff that we're in now, and we put us out in the middle of fields and mountains and things, at that point, we are so reliant on listening to where the wind is moving, to hearing the crumpling of the ground for animals, if we're hunting, right, we're looking at those We're using our intuitive skills to understand something that we cannot actually see yet. You're going, oh, wait, I hear the crumpling of this, the crumpling of that.

19:36 But when you're out and hunting and out and looking, you're also looking for a secondary danger, right, something that might creep up on you, or something that might give you a signal to do something. And we're designed to receive these signals. So the design of our intuition it's there. There's everybody has it. I look at what I do different from what someone else, right, who thinks that They're like, we're just normal. We don't have the things you can do. It's just the difference of me being able to pay attention and hone in right, kind of like a jogger, right, Oh, I'm gonna jog. Joggers don't necessarily go I'm going to go from jogging to the Olympics. But there are a few who do right. Everybody can run in some form, frame or fashion. But some are just exceptional runners because they put all their love and all their passion into wanting to do that, and they hone in the craft. Right.

20:25 They just learn and then they get to go to the Olympics. Will you know, Bob learns how to run around the block, right, or maybe just jog to the car. Whatever their level is that, and I feel like, yeah, I'm almost bop right, I'm dressed a little bit of a but I like to do some four k's every now and then and then I stop. But it's truly just understanding that it depends on how you hone it in and a medium and a psychic is just how your intuition receives information. It's not who you are, but how you do it. And that's a completely different thought process when you think about it. And all of those skills require practice. Right, natural ability is great, but if you add practice to that and understanding, it just kicks it up a little bit further.

21:09 Yeah, it sounds like being more than anything, being like open and receptive and like literally listening, like listening whether it's like you said to like feeling sound to your senses, and then that allows you to kind of like open up more internally. How does someone begin to recognize, like you said, you know, natural ability is great and then you want to practice that and build on that. How would someone maybe begin to recognize their own intuitive abilities. They would have to be really honest with themselves, right, besides the fear behind thinking that people think they're crazy. Right, So they've got to move beyond to the point where it doesn't matter if somebody thinks they're crazy. They need to investigate why, right, Why why do I get these things?

21:59 Or I would you understand it? It's truly to listen to understanding yourself. Right. Ninety percent of developing intuition is working on you, because once you can't lie to you, once you understand the difference in the voices in your head of the positive and negative voices, nothing can trick you at that point. At that point you can isolate and go woo, that voice that I heard, that one was not mine. It didn't even use phrases that I understand. That was not me, or I was fine five minutes ago, and suddenly now I have this emotion that just came from somewhere. I don't know where it came from. You have to be able to understand yourself to be able to allow other things in and then accept that they're there.

22:39 You're like, trust it, Yeah, you've got to trust that whop, that was not my voice. And even if you just start off with I just saw that that was weird. I don't know what to do with it, but it's there. That's now you accepting something into your reality, even if you don't know what to do next with it. And the more you do that, the more you're going to be able to seek knowledge. But it's your responsibility to seek that knowledge. It's not my responsibility to seek it for you. Right, So you've got to want to look at it and be honest and want to change because doing this will change you. It will not only change you, but it'll change the relationships you have with all the people around you. And they're either going to accept that change and change with you, or they're not and they're going to move away from you, and you have to be ready for that. And I think that's the scariest part of developing intuition.

23:31 Yeah, it sounds like building that that like security in oneself. You cannot have too much insecurity doing this work, especially when you share it with other people, because like you said, like you run that risk of people just being like, oh, well, they're just crazy, they're just. Crazy, right, And then you can't get stuck in the proven mode either. Right. It's one of those things that you know, you're like, oh, yeah, prove it. You know, you don't need to prove anything to anyone you have to understand that if you can do this, just trust the information flies out of your mouth and let it fly. Even if the person goes no, that resonated with me. I promise you later on, they're going to. Be like shit, I was about to say, I have I have a friend who she does a lot of psychic work. She's a psychic, and I've had mutual friends who will say like, oh, I booked an appointment with so and so and they did this reading for me and they're like, I don't know, like it didn't really make sense. And I'm like, okay, but I know this friend and like I'm confident in her abilities too, and so I'm like, oh okay. I was like, well, you know, maybe they're picking about something else whatever whatever. A couple of weeks ago by and they're like, and holy shit, she was spot on or like something out that They're like I was wrong, Like no, like, they're like she was totally. I'm like, well, yeah, you just got to give it time sometimes, like it's not like an immediate It took me a bit.

24:42 Working with clients because you know, working with places when you know, with Steven and Alexis is very different than working with people, and people are very unpredictable and there's like the energy is really odd. So being able to start with clients. When I initially started, I had that nervous thing when I didn't get anything back, you know, like I'd be talking they'd just be like sure, whatever, right, and they'd been like, well that was an interesting reading, right, like kind of they would leave and I was like, fuck, okay, right, I'm like, well, I don't know. I just said whatever was there, and I didn't let it kill the confidence, right, I just kind of just went, well that's what I got. Fuck it, you know, I don't know what's happening. But they would then call me or email me weeks later or even months later to go, hey, you know that thing that I was nosshole about, right, yeah, it did come true? Right? Or you were on point? Or I talked to my grandmother and she was she said that was so and so, and it was like almost exactly when she showed me the image, and I was like cool, So I that gave me more confidence to just continue to run my mouth.

25:37 Right, Yeah, I was about to say. I was like, I feel like I should maybe not ever do this because I am such an I told you so person, and I feel like spirit would be like, you need to stop behaving that way, you need to stop. So good for you for not being like, well, well well well yeah. I try not to. I just kind of panicked until I hear from them, and then I go, okay, was cool, it was good. I can keep going right, yeah, oh gosh. So one of your kind of like specializations is entity communication, and I wanted to talk about this one because I feel like for like the everyday person, for someone who maybe is not involved in this kind of work or this industry or this field, what have you, when they hear something like that, I think their immediate thought is like something like in the movies, it's like, oh, you can talk to dead people, you can talk to ghosts. So I'm very interested to hear from you what that actually looks like in practice and like when someone comes to you for that sort of work. Because I was as I was going through your website, that was the one where I was like, I feel like this would be the one that would probably catch people's attention right away and be like, oh, like she can do this, what is this? So how would you she can do this?

26:53 She can do right exactly? How how would you describe that that kind of work. It's it's different every time, so it's kind of I'll give you the I guess the running pattern. I guess that's the best way to put it. Right. It's dependent and we're going to focus on let's just say, when I am out and about right in areas. In areas it's for me, it's easier to pick up the energy of another entity or something that's there because they're willing to want to talk, right, they're willing there. Maybe that's been quiet too and long, or nobody's been listening to them, and they tend to come in with the use of the energy around them. So when they come in, I can experience it either as a physical view of energy moving through the room, like I can see that it's there, either a watery outline or a snap of a picture that happens in my head. And for some reason, that snap has so much detail, even though it was a quick flash, there's so much detail to it and sometimes even a story behind it that I can grab and understand how to tie it together. But the story is never a straight line. It's always these pockets of little pieces of other pictures that I have to understand how to string together. And that was probably the hardest thing to learn, is understanding how to string it together without my bias, right with just kind of openly there. And then I realized, oh, I can back and forth. You can show me a string of pictures, and I can concentrate on just one picture and say this picture, can you tell me more about that? And then another wave

28:24 of energy will come in and give me different things. But the experience could be something that's all cranial right, all in my head, all in my mind's eye. I can see the movie kind of happening, slow it down and bring it back. Or it could be me sitting down like we are today and me not even understanding that what I'm connecting to is even dead right. I've had those experiences where I've had these full conversations thinking the person was there, alive with me, and they were not. So it took me years time to understand to miss look for the missing things. Do they have feet? Can I you know, their eyes like really present? Can I see through them? Are they missing pieces of their shoulders? Like I had to really pay attend to the detail of what was sitting in front of me to go, this is real, but it's dead, right, it's not here, and the reactions of other people. Right, sometimes people would walk by and be like, what's up with this crazy lady? Yeah, okay.

29:21 And then sometimes it's something I just suddenly understand, like just I understand that the room looked different, or I understand that there should have been a wall there, or there's like there's an understanding and I don't and I don't know how to explain that one in an easy way because I can feel it in my body almost like a memory, instead of me having a conversation with another entity. So it's just dependent on what the entity is, who it is, how long they've been passed, or are they here on this plane or are they in the next one. Right, There's a lot of little things that come into that, and it took me a bit to hone it in. But people who have I'm going to say, who are neurodivergent, right, that do have things like ADHD or something, they tend to be able to do this so well. But they also are the first ones to second guess themselves because they put the pictures of those pieces in quick succession they can go to right see it and go, this is the story, but then they second guess it because they did it so fast, right, So it's like a really interesting thing to watch them work because they are grabbing pieces of energy putting the story together. And then they rewrite it and they write it and rewrite it and write it, and that's what gets the second guessing. Yeah, so that's crazy.

30:35 I wish we had a camera in the control room because I can feel Jeff smiling loudly right now at me. Yeah. I was going to say, like I want to ask this question because I know or I assumed that it would be different from encounter to encounter. It's never going to be the same every time. And I think that's what's important for people to understand, is like you cannot just you know, I don't know how to say it, Like, I don't know why the image of like draping a mannequin. You cannot just like drape something on a mannequin and it's going to look the same every time when you toss it. It's going to look different every single time. So I don't know if that. No, Yeah, absolutely, it's going to look different, not only every time to you. But if I travel with someone else trouble with another intuitive, they're going to be sensitive to different vibrations than I am. So their experience. We could be in the same room, in the same location, in the same space, their experience could be completely different from mine because of what their energy is willing to bring in, right, versus what's willing what I'm willing. So I never really cast off and never say no, you're wrong.

31:44 I just go give me more because then maybe I can find the same thread and then follow the same direction. Right. Sometimes it's not my find it's somebody else's fined right, And depending on the external person trying to find the information, one of it is going to be right. But there'll always be this weird little baseline between us, like here was this thing, and then we branch off from there. So it's never the same, not from person to person, nor every time I've had the experience. What I memorize is the vibration of the pattern of the way that it feels to know, oh, that's a ghost versus that's an elemental spirit, that's something that's in nature versus ooh that's something more divine.

32:26 Right. So it's knowing. That pattern, Yeah, and knowing how to like hand off, you know, the baton, but someone else is involved, the spiritual baton. I feel like I I want to say it was a long time ago that I listened to that episode that happened on an episode with the Night outl right where it was you and there was someone else another intuitive where you all maybe like picked up on something we've done. Yeah, we've done different things, and that's happened between me and Lane. That's happened. And she wasn't even there, she was just consulting in so we got the baseline, but then she branched off to one thing while I branched off into something else. Jeffrey, it's happened, you know, Kate the Brave, It's happened. We've been together in again, same place, same space, different different things, right, different things that we all received. And it's not a question of oh, well, this one's wide or this one's wrong. It's more of a question of what energy am I in tune to? Right?

33:20 I'm in tuned to a lot of energy of people who seem to be lost, misguided, or they never really found their place. That's the kind of energy that is attracted to me where others might be. It's more about the nature of the space. The wood talks to them, the house talks to them, the thing. You know, they're looking at it in a different perspective. So some its plants, right, things like that. So it just depends on the person. All right, We're going to take a quick break on that one, absolutely, and we are back. So Sarah, as you know, this show, I tend to focus a lot on stories that are very specific to a culture or to maybe to like a set of cultures, right, And like you mentioned earlier, you heard some of the stories growing up, you know, LIKEUI, a lot of these like disciplinary legends, right. So I know that you are familiar with susto as a concept of like a folk illness.

34:28 Have you encountered in your work people who you would maybe diagnose as suffering from susto And have you ever had to like remedy that before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's I come across it a little bit more often the next care to admandments it is more often, and remedying it is difficult because you first have to change the mind of the person, right, once somebody believes something in them wholeheartedly. To get them to see a different perspective is extremely difficult, right, it's really understanding how to jolt the energy into a different vision. So when somebody suffers from SUSTO, you first have to work with understanding why they're holding on to that concept.

35:15 Understood that it's a deep like symptoms, it's a deep fear, but it's deep fear that makes us feel powerless or that we didn't have the correct protection in our mind's eye. So you have to build that trust back into themselves by shaking it out of them essentially, right to really just go, is this what you really believe is real? To let go of the nervous system, right, let the energy go. It's to me, I always look at it in my head, is when somebody is suffering. So susto is like a possum, right, when possums it play dead and they just right just it just lay there. And then once they understand that the danger is lost, they kind of start waking up a little bit and then they kind of look around like is it say I could I make my rent? They'll make their rent, they'll leave the escape and once they understand they're safe, what they do is they shake out the energy of that frame.

36:06 They play possum so that their body doesn't feel the damage when something starts to eat them. Right, they're essentially half killing themselves. With us, when we get scared, the same thing can happen. We essentially put ourselves in a state of almost being half dead to survive the pain of whatever is going to happen next, whether it's emotional pain or physical pain. When it is spiritual pain, a ghost scared shit out of you, right or I had this moment, it's still the same response. You're still locked into the fear of not understanding how to defend yourself and also not allowing someone to help you. It's the craziest thing, and so working with that person, it has to happen in It's just not going to happen right away.

36:54 It has to happen in a way for you to understand first why did they wrap their fear and concept around what was happening, and then getting them to understand how much more powerful they are to be able to shake it off into something else. It's just it's not as simple black and white. But belief is so strong it could heal you or it can kill you, depending on how willing you are to hold on it. Yeah, yeah, it's It's reminded me of when I was younger. I got very, very sick and to the point of like I needed like to be rushed to an emergency room. But before we got to that point, we went to the Gurandada that lived on the other side of the block, and she had like this at a media for us, and she's like, this is what's happening. But even like before you even got to like go to do you know, the ritual that she had sat for me, I experienced that that sort of like paralysis where you're like like I'm like I don't like I don't know what to do.

37:59 I don't know what to believe, I don't know how to get better and know how to let go. And so it took a lot of you know, Eventually I was able to go, you know, get medical attention, which I always tell people like, seek it from every angle, approach her from every angle. So I was able to go get the medical attention that I needed. But then I realized that there was still a lot of like spiritual work that needed to be done and spiritual healing, and so that's I was able to seek out those things, but shout out to that one nurse at in that medical I wish I remembered her name. She I remember I had pneumonia and for some reason, like they were taking a long time to bring like the the nebulaizer, the breathing treatment, and I was starting to panic because I couldn't breathe. And this woman she walked in, she was like, what's going on? My mom tried to explain to her, and she like immediately grabbed my mom's hand and I'm going to try to cry it, but she just like put her hands over me and she just started like she started praying. But I was like, I've never ever seen or felt someone pray this way. And it literally felt like fire fire, yeah, And I was just like like my breath came back to me. And I don't know if it was like a distraction, if it was truly like I believe that she like she was tapping into something else, but it was wild. That is the only time I ever experienced something like that, Like the intensity of it, like how hard she was like speaking and like I could feel every word like going through me. And I never saw her again. I

39:31 was there for two weeks. I saw her that one time, and I was like, I wish I could find this woman and be like what did you do to me? Like how did you do? It's really going back to kind of some indigenous belief systems where you know, there are indigenous belief systems that say, there's a soul in everything that we look at. Right, Animals have a medicine that we need. Plants have a medicine that we need, The Earth has a medicine that we need. But we were always neglecting the fact that we as humans have the medicine that another human needs as well. Wow, and we don't count ourselves in part of that framework. Right. For some reason, they told us, well, you're more elite or you have this thing, be above that, but you're not. You're an animal just like that, with a soul just like that that can heal someone else just like that. You have to be willing to want to help that person in that moment, understanding that it doesn't matter what I believe and what you believe. The goal is healed. And if we're both leading to the same goal in the whatever we believe in, that's what sparks the energy that heals right, But it heals everything your physical frame, your mental frame, your spirit frame, all that that is connected. And we can do that for each other. We can do great harm or we can do great good. It's all on how you direct that energy.

40:50 And soustos can be healed with just thought. Just the energy of that other person mixing with the belief that you are going to get better and that it is going to go away gives you hope. Again, Yeah, I hope, Yeah, I just got chills. So I want to talk more about your work with metaphysical you, as I like to call it the metaphysical universe. You created this like community everything. No, you really have created this like this space, so to speak. And so you found a metaphysical you partly because as you mentioned in other places that you felt like other places maybe used fear and mystery as like a way to gatekeep you know, this knowledge and this like inner power that people can tap into. What what else motivated you to create metaphysical you?

41:46 That was like the top my arty right to be able to do that. I think also the lack of community. I ran across so many people wanting to learn and wanting to get in there, but they didn't have, you know, they didn't support Like I really feel like I was blessed to have this spport, even though it was you know, it was the traditional Hispanic supported you're crazy, but still something's there right. For me? Please right, So it was you know, I had the supportive understanding that it was a real part of the world where others don't write. They come from like an extremely strict belief system, background from their family or none at all, and this kind of thing was just crazy. And if they were to say, hey, I just saw this floating ahead, you know, this other Day Times conversation with this guy that's been dead for one hundred years, you know, other people would be like, oh, maybe some commitment is needed to hear it. Right, something's going on.

42:38 But to build a community where you could come in and say that and nobody's going, you're fucking crazy. Everybody's going, wait, hold on, were you like meditating or were you like how exactly? Because we're going to try to replicate and see if we can do ourselves. That is probably the best thing. And to also hear someone else's story that is almost exactly yours and how they it's amazing what it does to people to be able to go shit, this is like, this is a real It's not just me, this is a real thing. And to have that community and that support as you grow in whatever level you're in, it's awesome, right. And so for me, metaphysical U isn't just about learning. It's also about forming this safe space of community for anyone who's understanding that this is a safe space of community and that their perspective, no matter how other people would see it as obscure, we see it as like a little treasure, right, a little nugget of information that wow, I never would have thought somebody would believe that. Tell me why, right, and really exploring the belief system of others instead of holding hostage and saying if you don't believe like me, then something's wrong with you. It's understanding the baseline again, right, that's you know, the community baseline is to give each other the support the beliefs is or what's.

44:00 Different, right, And so just so people understand like this and we'll plug everything. Of course at the end, metaphysically you there are there's courses that people can and there's time that people can book with you online. But I think what is really really special, and I'm going to say about my dollars to try and go. Maybe not this year, but next year. Is the metaphysical Uninhibited, which is it's the seminar. The seminar, Yes, it's like it's a day long seminar, like you're saying, where you can spend that time with like minded people. I go out of my way to get speakers in every genre of metaphysical that I can get right, so we'll feme it for the day and then I will find somebody who's practicing it. And the caveat for me is you can be on, but you have to be willing to teach. You have to be willing to listen to somebody's questions, no matter how far fetched it is about your specialty, and be willing to share the information just at a base level. It doesn't have to be like this super advanced thing. It could just very well be like I started here and go there and hold that space. It is true learning. It's not just listening to somebody give you their story, but listening to somebody and how they used their practice, how they learned their practice, and you pick their brain. Right. If you're a death della, you want to know about that. If you're in gurandar rismo, you want to learn that. If you're in bottle my own but you want to understand what that is. That it's not a danger to everybody, or it's not doing We've got people who were exorcists and all kinds of stuff that have been speakers. It's really understanding how to

45:33 get knowledge, and that seminars. It's literally all day knowledge, all day community. I strive to make it a little small and intimate because then we learn a little bit better like that, so it's really fun. I'm just glad that this year will be at Nature's Treasures, which is amazing. That's so exciting, amazing. Yeah, there's this like sense of accessibility, you know that doesn't always happen, you know, because people can pay, you know, one hundred dollars out of their pocket to go to events or what have you, or they go to free events, you know, but the knowledge isn't always accessible. It's being people and you know, and it's fine. Sometimes it's okay to go to things like this, and I think it's maybe what people need. Sometimes it's more than they need. But I think there is definitely the opportunity and you have, I think, taken the opportunity to make these things accessible to people who are seeking it out beyond you know, sitting in a presentation, which again I think is great, people love it, but to interact, to interact, yeah, and to actually like learn and to have that back and forth and like you said, in an intimate setting. Again, that sense of accessibility, I think is it's really important. That's something that you're providing because not everything is as accessible as I think it should be.

46:46 Right, and to ask, right, it was hard for me to be able to ask questions developing because people were like they were gatekeeping the answer. Right. They were like, oh, sure, look i'll give you the free stuff, but you're gonna have to pay me five hundred dollars to give you that end, right, And then when you find out the answer after paying it, you're like, should I already knew what that was, right? Or I'll damn it. So it's really I wanted it to be accessible because this is everyone. Everyone is intuitive. Everyone has a right to at least found the foundation of it. And then if they want to pay thousands of dollars to specialize, well that's on them, right, Like knock themselves out. But let them at least first understand the concept, the baseline of it. Ask questions of the people who are doing it because and stop gatekeeping.

47:30 Just give it to them. Gate keep the crazy advanced things that you really know that can cause harm to that person if they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Okay, right, let them build into that, but initially, just answer what they've got, you know, see it from give them your perspective with how you were developing and what was going on. It will help shape them better and that shouldn't be, you know, with a huge price tag on it. And again, the community is what's important, don't you know when you shut somebody out or you say no this is a closed practice, you know, or when you do that, you're already creating a disconnect in the community. And that doesn't make sense. This is everybody's going through it, So the community has to be large enough to support everyone. So that's what the you in there, right, it's united for me, it's a university for others.

48:21 It's the you as the person. Yeah, it's that's the reason for it. I love that. So we have mentioned them a bit. The conversation about the n id Ol podcast and your work on the major shout out to them, even though they always win Podcast of the Year. I don't know. I feel like one day, like one day I'll try again. One day, I'll try again. We'll see, we'll see. No. But I do love them, and I do love listening to that show. And you know you've done your paranormal investigations with the team there. I'm curious what your thoughts are on what do you think is interesting to the average person about and I say average person not in like an insulting way, but maybe someone who's not involved directly in the work, what is interesting to people about a haunting or about ghosts? Like, what do you think is like why do people keep coming back to to these stories or why are they so into hauntings or alleged hauntings.

49:20 I think it's the possibility, right, I think it always And I say the possibility because it would be the possibility of everything. It could be the possibility of the fear. Oh my god, you know that demon could be real, right, the possibility of the fear. Also, it's the possibility that there really is connection after death, right, That possibility is very intriguing to have a tangible something to answer that because we're so obsessed with it, right, we want to live forever, So we do our supplements and we work out, and we do the things and everything that we are looking at externally to extend our lives. But I think when you find the paranormal stories, they fulfill two things again, the possibility of that love, that hope, that continuation of knowing this is not the last thing, or understanding or the possible fear of what happens if I don't get my shit together and I get stuck here? Right, So it's just that crazy, just the sense of just that possibility, And I think that's what's extremely intriguing about it. But people just don't understand that experience in this world, whether it's good or bad. In the spiritual world, it hits you personally, right, even if you're just watching it on TV and you're watching someone else go through it. Something about hearing that story taps something inside of you that changes you or forces you to change your perspective. Or the very possibility that it could happen goes down. What

50:51 do I do with it? Instead of fanning fear? Then maybe just a little bit of understanding would be better, but you know, whatever it is, what it is, so I think it just gives them that thought process of possibility, an. Answer and answer, yeah, yeah, have you ever had a moment? I feel like there's there's a misconception. I'll speak for myself when people asking about these things, and they'll say, well, oh, you must not be scared of you know, any of this right, And for me it varies. Right, like with the scary movie. I can handle scary movie. I'm usually good unless it's like really scary, maybe more than someone who's not into that. But for like actual like in person, real life, you know, encounters with the paranormal, I do get a little spooked by that. I get a little frightened here and there. So I'm curious, have you had any frightening experiences?

51:42 I've had many frightenings. Okay, would you be able to share one? I'd be like this, thank you Stephen for scaring the little bit shit into me and you appreciate it. But no, there are a lot of I mean, there's a lot of scary moments, right, there's a lot of scary moments. It was hard with night all because Stephen never really told me where we were going, and so just even the drive to where they would make me meet them, right, I could feel that there was something that I needed to pay attention to or something that was going on, and I'm like, God, damn it, there's he taking me now. Right then, It's like every moment could be terrifying. It's not a big deal, right every time I go in there, I'm like, Oh, I don't know what I'm gonna find, but it's what you do despite the fear. I think my favorite, I'm gonna say my favorite scary moment was I was invited to go out to Yorktown Hospital locally and we spent the night. Right, we spent the night there and we had this great encounter with a few entities.

52:40 And they had a rampod in the middle of a hallway and the holloway is dark. There's no electricity in this place, no bathrooms, no running water, and we're talking to this rampod. The rampod's beeping back, and then we were like, we should move the rampod somewhere else. And there's like ten people down this long hallway and they're like, who's gonna move it. I was just like, well, I'll go move it, It's fine, right, And just walking up towards it, my mind is just going, look, don't crawl up on me, don't come you know, blah blah blah. I'm like me, fucking nice, I'm just moving there. I'm just moving the red pot. Yeah, I'm business, you know, just kind of like and it was terrifying, yes, walking through them. But I still did it despite the fact, you know, moved it around and I could just see the shadows like retreating and I'm like, I'm just pushing it over here, trying to keep my shit together. But it is, it's it is a terrifying thing because you really don't you really don't know one hundred percent what you're walking into until you interact with it. And then you have to have the confidence of being able to interact with it and know how to get yourself out of it. Right. This is where learning your limitations is really important. Right. I'm very happy to know just the right amount of people to be like, I think I'm possessed.

53:56 Can you like that? Yeah? Yeah, help me, you know, beat me with some eucalyptus or something. Get this up. So, like, I'm fortunate enough to have like a good network of people to be able to do that and just send other people to mm hmm. But you've got to have that strength in your in your belief system to just be like, despite the fear, I'm going to do it right, it doesn't matter. But they're not. It's not easy. It's not easy to walk into something and be like. This, Yeah, gosh, we're going to take one last quick break.

54:42 All right, we are back so really quick on that last thing. And also, I feel like generally the idea of like community has come up a lot right now in this conversation, and so I'm curious about what you would say to someone who is maybe interested in like we mentioned honing those abilities or embracing them, but maybe someone who is skeptical or scared even do you have advice for them or maybe even more about like like you just mentioned, you know, when you're going into a scary situation, you want to make sure that you have someone else that you can lean on and say, hey, I might need help with something. Yeah, you know, do you have words of wisdom for folks who are interested in that?

55:23 If you're starting off, you know, I would tell you, you know, seek the knowledge, seek the right person you want to learn from, right, really seek them out. Don't take at face value what someone says. Right, really take the information in, write it down, moll it over right, get it out of your head onto something that's black and white, and then give yourself a minute to ask is this true? Right? Really understanding to trust that something inside of you will tell you yes or no the answer. The other thing is as you begin to develop and you start looking, because a lot of people start off self developing, they're looking for books or you know, things and information. As you're going and again, find the book on the topic, but go down to where it started, to find the oldest book you can find on the topic, and then work your way forward into the modern thinking.

56:13 It will completely change how you look at something when you do that. If you're just taking something from surface and face value and say that's the law that already is setting you up for failure. Right, nobody's perfect and nobody is right. It's all theoretical, everything, all of it right, even what I do. I don't ever say no, I'm right. I just go I'm good until somebody shows me that I'm not. So understand that you are also just good, until somebody shows you that you're not You're not perfect, and you're not right. So the moment you can accept that and embrace it, the better you're going to build. And no matter what, you cannot do this alone. You have to create a community for yourself. You have to create some type of support system with you, and you must feed your belief system. If your belief system is weak, you're always going to walk in fear. And I see this a lot with students where they're like, I want to have more experiences, and then when they start having them their bottles anthoing everything and spraying with Awa Florida and baity and you know, baptism water right or whatever it is, to try to get it up, and I'm like, well, you asked for it, why the helloweens? Yeah? Yo, right, so it's really understanding. Be cautious about what you're asking for.

57:26 It will come in a way, big, weird way, right, and then you're going to be like, what the hell just happened and just say that happened. Okay, that happened. I asked for it. Cool, I don't know what I'm doing it perfectly fine. So we have really great opportunities if you want to learn with us. You know, we have free ways to start. We've got the free Wednesday. We meet every Wednesday, and we have for the last six years have met every single Wednesday and allowed people from the public to just come in and ask questions. Right. People who don't do this practice as a practice. People who are just curious and want to listen. They come in and they you know, I'll ask, what do you guys want to talk about today? You tell me, I'm not gonna teach you anything. You're gonna ask me, and we're gonna go and we're all gonna learn from each other.

58:09 And it's such a fun, safe environment to be able to do that. Even if you're just listening. You don't have to participate, even though I sometimes will volunt tell you right, but you can always just be like, no, I'm going to pass right, and that's fine. But it's the idea of even just listening to the community and listening to their perspective can help quite a bit with your development. Yeah, so, And I don't know if there's any other places that do that, but I know for sure we do so. And it's open. Where can people find information about these meetups? You can definitely go onto our website so that metaphis will use dot com write the letter dot com and right in the front when you see it, you're going to see that says click here on a Wednesday night, Just click click Wednesday night at eight. That's where we are.

58:50 Thank you so much for being here today. If people wanted to follow you online, if they wanted to book for a session for this seminar, where can they find you? Absolutely you can find us at www dot metaphysical, the letter you dot com. You can always find us there. You can also find our podcast at MPN Leashed. It's one of those things that we love to do. We're on every every platform that you can find us in or you can grab me on Instagram both Metaphysical Hugh Austin or at Sarah dot ort Reeds. I'm there as well. So cool. Thank you once again, absolutely so much for being here and thank you all for tuning in today. Don't forget the seminar September twenty six. You have plenty of time.

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