Oct. 24, 2024

Misnébalam, Mexico

Misnébalam, Mexico

Is a ghost town ever really empty? In this episode, Ayden shares the haunting history of Misnébalam, a ghost town in Mexico. 

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Is a ghost town ever really empty? In this episode, Ayden shares the haunting history of Misnébalam, a ghost town in Mexico.

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A girl friends, it's me Adrian or Aiden. Either way,

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I am still your host and you that's right, you

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are still listening to Sustal, the podcast of ooky, spooky

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scary stories centered on paranormal folklore from Latin American cultures.

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Welcome back, Thank you for joining me once again around

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the campfire, the cauldron, whatever you will, a fire receptacle,

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and if this is your first time, welcome, thank you

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so much for being here. I promise we will not

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we don't curse, and we don't hex within this circle.

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This is a safe coven for you all. Halloween season

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is I haven't been as active on Instagram and TikTok

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because let me tell you something. I think I said

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it last episode. I was preparing for this month to

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be that video of Lady Gaga saying bus club, plane club,

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another club, no sleep. Literally that has been me this

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whole month. I am loving it. You know. Unfortunately I

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do have unfortunately, but not really, I do have a

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full time job, so you know, it's all just one

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big balancing act. I'm just I am merely a clown

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juggling for you all, and I hope that you are

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entertained and you are enjoying it because I mean, I'm

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having a pretty good time, even though I'm tired, i

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am run down, ran through and dusty. I am having

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a great time, I promise you, but I am. I

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want to lead by example. I am taking moments to

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take care of myself. So I will be posting photos

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in anything that I've gathered over this lot these last

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few weeks from the events that I've been at. Again,

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you can follow on social media at Soostal podcast to

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see where I've been where I'm going. So, speaking of

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the next few events that I have coming up is

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Phantom Fest at Sagebrush here in Austin, Texas on October

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twenty seventh. That's a two day event, but like I

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said earlier, I'm taking moments to care for myself. So

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it's happening on the twenty sixth and the twenty seventh,

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but I will be there on the twenty seventh tabling,

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selling merch and also doing a live collaborative show with

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my paranormal Buddhas. And then after that, on October thirty first,

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I will be sitting on a panel at the Kentucky

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Folk Life Program. They didn't know we receieds event that

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is an online virtual event. It's free to attend. You

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can go ahead and again just follow me on socials

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to get all the information for that. November second, I

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will be at mex American. This is the second year

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in a row. I will be with them, free to attend.

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That's an amazing event. If you are into anything storytelling, art,

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comic books, anything like that from the Latin American perspective,

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make sure to go check out mex American. I will

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be tabling there and I will be moderating a panel

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of spooky creators that are going to be there, so

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I highly suggest checking that out. And then one more

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after that, I will be at the Critical Mystery Studies

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Symposium at the University of New Mexico, So if you're

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in New Mexico, come out check it out. I will

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be posting that information online. That's November eighteenth and nineteenth.

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I believe it's free and open to the public, but

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again you can see that when I post it online.

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So very exciting. I'm going all the way too. I'm

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taking SUSTL all the way to New Mexico. So thank

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you so much to everyone who has inviting me to

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these events and listen I say this all the time.

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For me, Spooky season is three six five. I'm a

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three six five party gooul. The events, the gatherings, they

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don't have to stop at the end of October. You

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know me, we can do this anytime. You all reach

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out to me. If you see something you think that

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I should be a part of, or you think, hey,

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I think Aiden would have fun here, or Aiden could

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do something here, send it my way and me their way.

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Let's make it happen. I will say a lot of

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these events happen because people have seen Susto and they're like, oh,

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actually I know these people, or I work with these people,

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or they send it to me and then I reach

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out to them. So it really really does help when

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you all reach out that way. Speaking of reaching out

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and working with other people, I am on or have

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been on a few other shows. You can hear me

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on the Floaties for Krakens podcast on look at Ora Radio.

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Upcoming will be Queer Town. I think this is a

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little early, so I hope I'm not spoiling this for them,

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but that will be out soon and there may be

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more to come. I may or may not have recorded things.

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I'm just waiting on finding out whether or not I

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made the cut. You know what I mean. That's showbiz.

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You know you never know if you're gonna make the cut,

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Am I right? So fingers crossed will see there will

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be more, And like I said, I'm always open and

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willing to collaborate. I play well with others, Okay, I

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promise I don't possess everyone I come across, just only

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a few people. Anyway. Those are all the updates. Thank

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you again so much for being here. As always, if

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you have your own scary story that you would like

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me to share on a Letters from the Beyond episode,

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you already know how to do that DM on social media,

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email me, visit my website, five star review on Apple,

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in the comments on Spotify, and it doesn't have to

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be a written story only. You can also send a video, audio, recording,

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photo and then I'll post those on these socials. Before

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we go into this story, I want to thank my

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research assistant and now writer. You have been promoted, Jeffrey Doyle.

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Thank you so much. He put this episode together wow

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and honestly saved my life because, like I said, I

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have been running around like a headless horseman this whole

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month and he came in saved the day. So huge

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shout out to Jeffrey. Everybody give him a round of applause.

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Please rite us thunderous roaring applause. And before we get

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into the story, I do just want to let people

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know this story contains mentions of sexual abuse and suicide.

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So again, one more time listener discretion advised. With that

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being said, we are going to listen to the story

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of the ghost town of miss Nebalam, Mexico. In the

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dry scrub forests of northern Yucatan. In a land spotted

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with sonotes, you'll find many historic asciendas. One of them

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was abandoned and has become known for ghost activity. Asienda

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mis Nebalam Mayan words for Jaguartel was a small town

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set up to grow and harvest hennigan, a type of agavi.

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The collection of buildings included the main acienda house, smaller

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workers buildings, and a Catholic church. The hacienda, that would

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eventually grow to house one hundred seventy people, was set

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up by Fidenzio Marguez in nineteen hundred to take advantage

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of a boom in the popularity of Hennikan in the Yucathon.

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This plant had been grown by the Maya people for

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thousands of years and became very profitable for Mexican settlers

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in the region. It could be crafted into extremely strong

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ropes and fibers, so it was valuable for the Mexican

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government and became an export industry to other countries. Because

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the plant grows so well in the Yucathon, many aciendas

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were set up to grow the crop, similar to plantation

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monocultures around cotton in the United States, a practice in

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which crop growers plant only one species in a field.

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With the boom in the economy, there was also a

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boom in crime. Many of these asciendas, Misene Balam included

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were far off of the main highways, making it easy

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to sneak upon and attack unsuspecting people. In October nineteen

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twenty one, Fidenzio, his son, and a worker were ambushed

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on one of the back roads traveling back to their hacienda.

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The attackers left them for dead and fled after stealing

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their belongings. The three travelers survived the initial attack and

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were able to return to the hacienda. Many reported that

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Fidenzio died upon returning to mis Nebalam. Ultimately, his family

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fled their home out of grief and fear, and left

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the foremen in charge of the operation to continue growing

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the hen again. Many reported seeing Fidenzio after his death,

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walking the grounds, keeping an eye on his land. His

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spirit was unable to rest as the operation of the

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hacienda was no longer up to his standard. Under the

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foreman's control, Hassienda mis Nebalam took a dark, dark turn.

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The foreman, drunk with his new power, was abusive and

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controlling of the people who lived and worked there. One resident,

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a nine year old boy named Julian often called Juliancito,

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received the worst of the abuse. After being assaulted and

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violated by the foremen, Julian found the courage to go

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to the priest of the hacienda and report what was happening.

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The priest, for fear of angering the foremen and leaving

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his good graces, instructed Julian to never tell anyone about

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what was happening. With no escape from the abuse, Julian

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was desperate to make it end. That night, the young

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Juliancito hung himself from a tree in the main courtyard

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of the Haussienda it is said the boy's soul, unable

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to rest from the suffering he lived through, joined Fidencio

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in walking the grounds of the Hussienda. Visitors report seeing

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the young boy's ghost at night in the main courtyard,

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playing with a ball. Others say they can hear the

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laughter of a child when no child is nearby. Unfortunately,

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Juliancito would not be the last ghost to haunt the grounds.

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The priest, who Juliancito confided in, was never able to

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recover from the guilt of what happened. He continued to

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regret his failure as a leader in the faith and

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a protector of the community until his death. His soul

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can still be seen walking the grounds of the church

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and nearby buildings, now appearing in solid black. The priest

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haunts the grounds, often referred to as the Black Monk.

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When his silhouette appears, people report hearing strange cries and

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unexplained noises. As the popularity of Hennigan dwindled in favor

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of artificial materials, the population of Nisena Balam shrunk as well.

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People stople traveling to the Assienda and the residents grew

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more and more fearful of the spirits that inhabited Misnambalam.

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By two thousand and five, the hacienda was completely abandoned,

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with no residence left. Nature began to take over. Many

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of the buildings, once bustling with people, now have plants

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growing through their foundations. People from the nearby city of

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Medida now tore the ghost town. Some even use the

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ruins for recreational fun Still, others have taken note of

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the presence of spirits and have chosen to start using

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the grounds for rituals and religious practices. Some of these

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are meant to bring peace to the ghosts, like an

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altar to Juliansito, which regularly has fresh flowers. Others are

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presumed to be more nefarious, with ruins, candles, and other

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tools left behind that are often associated with religious cults

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that seek to do harm. This is not the end

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of the story for meis Balam, though, a group of

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indigenous Mayan people seeking to obtain protected land have claimed

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mes Balam as property developers push them out of their

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homes close to the highway. The relative isolation of meis

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ne Balam offers them a place to live in peace.

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Perhaps they will be able to bring balance back to

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the lands of meis ne Balam after one hundred years

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of suffering. Welcome back, Ghoul friends. Thank you again so

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much to my research assistant and editor and a writer.

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I guess now he really took initiative. Should I keep

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him y'all? Jeffrey Doyle, thank you so much for helping

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me put this episode together, and I thank you all

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for listening to that. So let's divint to some of

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these sources. The first one we have here is from

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a website called Yukatan Today dot com and this is

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It looks like a touristy kind of website, but there's

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also some really good information here. This is published in

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twenty twenty three September. It's titled connect with the Great

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Beyond in mis Nevalam and they're kind of just letting

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people know again about miss Nevalam. And this says, if

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you're anything like me, you're likely counting down the days

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until October and November. That's us right here, eagerly anticipating

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the festivities of Hana Bisan. Oh, what's that Kanna Bisan

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or Day of the Dead altars in Yukatan. I guess

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that is how they identify that or it's like similar

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to that. That's pretty interesting. It says the right way

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to set up a finaloes or Hana Bistan or Yukat

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Khan Day of the Dead altar may vary greatly within

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this date, depending on the region, each family's tradition, and

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several other factors. In fact, it's easier to talk about

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what doesn't go on to hana Bisan alter than it

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is about what does you know? We're we're always it's

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always a school day here on Susto. Okay, So again

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this continues. That's one of the things I celebrate. It's

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the perfect opportunity to share traditions with family. Honor are departed,

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and why not get a few scares along the way.

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Who wrote this? Where is the name of the author here?

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Because I feel like this person gets it? Okay? Author

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is it Ahina Zumaraga. Thank you Regina for posting this.

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Communicologists specializing food and product photography amazing. So this continues.

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Just eighteen kilometers away from Medida, you'll find the perfect

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place to immerse yourself in the mystery and nostalgia of

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these dates. Step out of your routine with a spine

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chilling visit to Misene Balam, a well known ghost town

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in Yukatan, located within the jurisdiction of Santa Maria. Yeshe

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about halfway between Medida and Progresso. Are you familiar with

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the history of this unique place, Well now we are, so.

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As said, this goes on to talk about how people

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tore it. But there's something else in here that I

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wanted to read. It says it's the legends s rounding

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Julian Tito that have a specially attracted supernatural enthusiasts to

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miss Nee Balam. It turns out that mes Nee Balam

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and its long abandoned buildings have been a popular destination

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for both Airsoft and paintball players. So when I mentioned

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recreational fun in the story, people really use these places

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for recreational fun. Again, Airsoft's Paintball who occasionally record videos

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of their games. One of these recordings ended up being

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widely shared because behind the action it was possible to

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make out the figure of a boy, who, of course

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was associated with the legend of Juliancito. I want to say.

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Jeffrey said that he tried looking for this video and

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he could not find it. Also, it's not tagged or

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hyperlinked in this article, whereas several other things are so

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I think maybe also Rehina also had a hard time

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finding that video. So if anybody sees that out there,

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send it to me. I'm going to try really hard

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to find it, and if I do find it, it'll

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be on the social post for this episode, this continues.

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Unlike the one Fidanzio Marquez, whose existence is well documented,

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there no reliable records of hu Leancito's life or death.

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As for then Fidenzioji Marquez, he actually died of natural

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causes in nineteen forty. The events of nineteen twenty one,

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which aren't easy to independently verify, would have been only

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a failed attempt on his life, So it's possible that

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he was actually attacked on the road. But according to documents,

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he died of natural causes. He was not ambushed and

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murdered as legend says. But as we know many times

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these legends does kind of take a life of their

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own and they run amuck. This says. The truth of

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the matter is that the population of Meseni Balam dwindled

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until it was completely abandoned in two thousand and five,

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which is very recent. Rumors attribute this event to the

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paranormal occurrences, although it's very likely that it was due

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to the water shortage in the region. Very interesting, so

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this article kind of immediately demystifies what was happening with that.

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So it's a ghost town, yes, by definition, but is

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it a ghost town? You see what I'm saying, You

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hear what I'm seeing, you know. Yeah, So there's a

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very logical explanation as to why it is a ghost

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town now, but there's still so much legend that surrounds

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it for whatever reason. The next source that we have

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here is from pinkplankton dot com. It's titled Meisnevalam a

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haunted ghost town in Mexico's Yukatan Peninsula. And this has

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a ton of amazing pictures of these now ruins. I

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guess you could say, wow, this place. You can tell

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was probably very beautiful in its heyday. There's a short

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written entry here, but this is mainly photos, so huge

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shout out. I can see they have an Instagram here.

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I will be tagging them in those photos as well,

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but just that I have it here on the episode,

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it's pink Underscore Plankton on Instagram. They wrote here Mesnevalam

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is an abandoned ghost town near Medida, Mexico. It was

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inhabited from around nineteen ten to two thousand and five.

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It was once a lively little town do the production

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of Hennigan, a plant used to extract fibers and create textiles.

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In nineteen twenty one, the head of Hennigan production, though

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Fidencio Ji Marquez, was attacked and murdered. Again, we see

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that murdered, and we just learned that that is not

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necessarily true, possibly an attempt on his life, but they

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did not succeed. This continues. It is said that since then,

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ghosts and other paranormal activity began to scare the residents

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so much that in two thousand and five they left

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the town for good. I really want to know what

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the cherry on top, the straw that broke the camel's back,

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the final straw, whatever. I just want to know what

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that last thing was that made people decide, Okay, we

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got to get out of here. There's too much going

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on to spooky, to scarey no good. This continues. The

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Hennegan industry was booming at the time, but eventually fell

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due to the invention of more cost effective synthetic materials.

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This probably had something to do with the town's abandonment

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as well, but a wander around the pool and courtyard

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area shows what a thriving town this once was. You

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can find mis Ne Balam on Google Maps. Here are

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some photos I took in February twenty twenty one. Also

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this website. The tagline says travel and Festival Media by

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Jessica Devnani. So, Jessica, thank you so much for these

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beautiful pictures. I will be tagging you on the social post.

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These are really cool. This also kind of reminds me

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of if y'all have ever heard me talk about that

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abandoned building or mansion in Monte Alto, Texas, which is

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right next to where I grew up. These pictures kind

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of give me that vibe. It kind of looks like this,

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like there's a lot of just exposed foundation, just like

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open walls, open doorways with like no internal structure, probably

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very dangerous to venture into. And of course there's tons

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of graffiti all over the place. There is like vines

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and grass growing up the walls of these stained graffitied buildings.

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It looks really cool. Just to give you a visual

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description now and you'll see it again on the social

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media post. Wow, those pictures are amazing. The next source

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that we have is from a website, the Yukathon Times

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dot com and this is titled this is the Story

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behind meis Nevalam, The Ghost Town of Yukathon by Sophia Navado.

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This is published in June twenty twenty three, so a

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couple months ago, basically, really and here it's a it's

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a pretty short write up and they're just, you know,

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basically saying everything that we've covered again. Jeffrey did a

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really great job of using all of these sources to

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put that story together. It has descriptions of Julian and

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the monks stories. Here it says there are two versions

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of the complete abandonment of meis Nevalam. The first one

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suggests that a water shortage forced the inhabitants to migrate

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to more populated areas. The second and more well known

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version is attributed to the constant paranormal events that occurred there.

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One of the stories that sparked the legends of paranormal

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events dates back to nineteen twenty one, when the owner

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of the hacienda survived a serious assassination attempt his way

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to San Ignacio. Here we go they they called it

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what it was, ultimately an assassination attempt. Luckily, his son

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was traveling with him and managed to bring him back

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to Medila. However, the culprits of the attack mysteriously disappeared

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and were never found. After that incident's unusual events began

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to occur, and the most popular ones involve a child

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son of one of the workers, and a monk. Okay,

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here's my now, I just how new theory just hit me?

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I had that's a raven vision. Here's my new theory

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aka a rumor. And we'll see if this takes. It's

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a life of its own for this legend. So what

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if imagine this they because this says that the culprits

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of the attack mysteriously disappeared. What if it wasn't so mysterious.

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And after they attacked Fidenzio Marguez, he was like, actually,

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absolutely not. You don't try to kill me and get

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away with it, and he had them killed, and so

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then they followed them back to the hacienda and started

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haunting it. What if that's where some of this paranormal

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activity is coming from. Tell everybody that that is the truth.

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Now just kidding. Okay, this continues. It breaks down those

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two hauntings if you will. It has Julian's first. It says,

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according to the legend, Julian was a nine year old

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boy and the son of one of the hacienda workers.

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I'm going to correct some of the verbige here that

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says he died by suicide after hanging himself from a

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tree after being violated by one of the laborers. People.

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So this is one of the laborers, not the foreman.

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So again, because Fidenzio was not successfully murdered, then I

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guess the story of the foreman is out right. But

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now the legend of Julian switches to it wasn't the

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foreman that took over after Fidensio's death, because he didn't die.

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It was one of the other laborers on the ascienda.

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This continues. People who have visited the place have reported

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sidings and cries, which is why an altar has been

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set up for Julian. Visitors bring him flowers and sweets

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in order to help his soul rest in peace. That

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is so tragic and so oh so sad. The next

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one here is the story of the monk, and this

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says the true story of the monk is unknown. However,

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horror media outlets have captured images of the figure of

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a black dressed monk appearing on top of the buildings

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that used to serve as a church, usually in the

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early hours of the morning. Laughter, wandering silhouettes, cries, and

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strange noises emanating from the abandoned buildings have also been

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reported in the area. Okay, again, so there's no pictures

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with this one, but I am going to try and

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find pictures of the monk to post online because that

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is scary. I don't know what it is when you

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take iconography or if you imagine something that belongs in

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the church or is associated with the church and you

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turn it into its haunting, it's spooky. It's like kids,

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it's like seeing children ghosts. That's extra unsettling for some reason.

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And so that gives me the same vibe as the monk.

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The next source that we have here is for good

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old Atlas obscura dot com. If anybody knows someone from

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Atlas Obscura, I would love to. I feel like they're

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like to me because of how much I've been able

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to find on them. They give me like the spooky

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national geographic, but this is their entry on mes Nevalam, Mexico.

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According to legend, this hacienda was abandoned because of a curse,

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so that's different. A curse is different than a haunting.

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This says the ascienda of meis Nebalam, along with its

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surrounding abandoned village, is the only ghost town in the

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state of Yugatan. And this was published in twenty twenty two,

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so as recent as two years ago. This is saying

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this was the only ghost town in the state of Yugatan.

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Located at the first turnoff of kilometer twenty one of

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the Media Progdesso Highway, this unique ascienda or estate was

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built in the early twentieth century and inhabited for about

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one hundred years before being abandoned around twenty ten, which

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we've seen from other reports is two thousand and five.

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Miss Nevalam was one. It's an important site for the

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production of en again, a nagavid plant that is often

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turned into rope. At its peak, more than one hundred

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and fifty people lived in and around the estate, largely

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workers and their families. This says locals say that miss

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ne Baalam ended up emptied due to multiple paranormal phenomena,

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though a shrinking demand for Hennegen and the acienda falling

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into disrepair likely played a significant role, again demystifying those rumors.

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This continues according to people who have visited it. It

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seems to be stopped in time, which it can be

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assured is totally true. Vegetation has taken over the place

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and time has damaged the structures, making them spooker. The

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place is the victim of multiple religious cults, which is

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reflected in the ruins on the walls and also in

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the remains of candles and some instruments for religious purposes.

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But don't worry, it's not all strange cults. The place

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is often used for events such as airsoft and Gotcha battles.

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This says no before you go. The place is isolated,

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so it is advisable to bring enough water and materials. Also,

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take into account that it is an area without cell

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phone coverage, so be careful in case of an emergency.

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You know, I was about to say, Oh, it would

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be fun to go visit this place. No, the one

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thing I cannot do without is cell phone. Service. And

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that's not because I am an iPad baby and I

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need to hunch my back over and stare at my

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screen every second of the day, which is also kind

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of true. Mind your business. But what if something happens

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there's no one to call, not even again. Oh, I'm

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more scared of the living than the dead. What if

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some deranged person, some sinister evil person tries to attack,

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like those criminals that tried to attack Pu Dance, you

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Marchuez show up and they try to you know, kill me,

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and I have no cell phone service to call for

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help or if someone gets injured or you get trapped whatever,

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you know, that's just that is a no for me.

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So I mean, I guess I could be convinced, you know,

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if we went with a big enough group, but that is, yeah,

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the cell phone thing. I need to be able to

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call for help. This continues. Also note that the road

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is dirt, so you have to be very careful. It

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is advisable to go on one of the regular expeditions.

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Oh that's right, they do tours. Okay, perfect to go

463
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on one of the regular expeditions, although you can also

464
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visit on your own as long as you ask permission.

465
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From the caretaker to enter the hacienda. It is not

466
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necessary to ask permission to explore the village since it

467
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is outside the area of private property. Yeah. I would

468
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love to do. Okay, yeah, one of the tours I

469
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could do, Like I said, if it's a big enough group,

470
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but also someone who knows the area. I'm sure they

471
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have radios versus cell phones that they can use in

472
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case of emergencies. But yeah, that's really cool. So this

473
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entry it says that this was published in twenty twenty two,

474
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added by the Atlas Obscura user rad Lizard. Rad Lizard,

475
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thank you so much for putting this in. I definitely

476
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want to go the last thing that I have here,

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and I will find a way to post the link.

478
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I could probably post the link in the descriptions, the

479
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.319
description or the notes of this episode, but I'll also

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post it directly to Patreon for Patreon subscribers, which also

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if you are a Patreon subscriber at the mid to

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higher tiers, then you get access to the Susto Google

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docs with direct links to all of these sources where

484
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I will also be posting this video. But again this

485
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says this is a video. It's just exploring a ghost town.

486
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This was uploaded by Sugar Free Traveler two years ago

487
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and they posted a video I think of one of

488
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the tours. They said, while in Yukatan, I decided to

489
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join a local tour company. There you go Mochilero's Yugatan

490
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on a tour of an old, abandoned ghost town and

491
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the Acienda and mes Nevalam Yugatan. Join me on this

492
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episode as we explore the abandoned ghost town of meis

493
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Nebalam at night, which includes a few houses and a church.

494
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So in case you're interested in seeing what that tour

495
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may look like. It's very dark. I'm scrolling through it.

496
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:57.000
It looks very creepy, very demonic, not like these other tours. Yeah,

497
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.440
that would definitely be something that I would love to do. Okay,

498
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.880
there there are two more actually, So this one is

499
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from It looks like a website called Indignacion dot org

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dot Mexico. This is an entry. It says researchers present

501
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.880
amicus curie supporting the right of the Union of Residents

502
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.720
of Chablecal to guard the forest. This says researchers from

503
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:20.079
fifteen Latin American countries embraced the struggle of the union

504
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.599
of Chablecal inhabitants. They claim that the inhabitants have the

505
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legitimate right to continue being a Mayan people and to

506
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protect their mountains. The mentions that it says here of

507
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.559
mis Nevalam, it says, I'm skipping ahead. But this says

508
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.079
the annoyance increased when they began to sell the common

509
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.079
use forests, that is, those that were for the use

510
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and enjoyment of the entire town, not just the ahdatarios. Quote.

511
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:46.079
Telbecal is an indigenous town and the ancestral forests have

512
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.759
been and continue to be part of our territory end quote.

513
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.359
The document states this reflection encouraged them to take possession

514
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.400
in twenty fourteen when they beganned their struggle of the

515
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.160
mes Neebalam forests, which is made up of two hundred

516
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.160
and eighty six hect which the inhabitants have described as

517
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.319
quote the last corner of the ancestral territory of Chablikal. And.

518
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A hectare is a metric unit of area equal to

519
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a square with one hundred meters sides that is ten

520
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thousand square meters, and is primarily used in the measurement

521
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.200
of land. Also, I probably edited that out, but the

522
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.119
first time I read it, I read it as ektadas.

523
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:23.839
I don't know if that happens to anybody else who

524
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.960
is bilingual, but you dip into the other language sometimes

525
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.680
this continues. A final mention of Mesnabalam says the importance

526
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.000
of this mountain is that it is a space considered

527
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.160
sacred due to the presence of Sennotees and pre Hispanic mounds.

528
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In twenty eighteen, they held a ceremony at the foot

529
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.759
of the Nohoch Mule or main mound, to give thanks

530
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.440
to the fight. The description of the ceremony can be

531
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.839
seen in the document. Likewise, meis Nee Balam is also

532
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.799
important since its young custodians consider it a kind of

533
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:58.400
ecological reserve with a diversity of plants, as we spoke

534
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.799
about earlier, and is all over those pictures again it

535
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.799
is covered in plant life. This says the kinds of

536
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.720
plants is medicinal, forestry, timber uses, et cetera. So there

537
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.599
are tons of ways to use this plant life, this

538
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.519
nature that's taken over and native animals such as the yuya,

539
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.000
the deer, the wild turkey, among others. So definitely this

540
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.000
place needs people that will make it sustainable okay. And

541
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.799
the final source here is a chapter from a book.

542
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.440
The chapter is Invisible Maya Communities, Indigenous Territory and the

543
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.279
Nation State in the Yucatan by Josse and heel Goyokku,

544
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.079
translated by Ellen Jones. And this is in the book

545
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:43.160
Beyond Mestizach Contemporary Debates on Race in Mexico, published in

546
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.400
twenty twenty four, a while very very recent. I'm going

547
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.920
to read some just some of this that mentions mis

548
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.240
nevalam So. This section in this chapter says defending territory

549
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.359
in the old northeastern Hennigan producing region. Chable Gal, as

550
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.039
we mentioned earlier, is a Maya community located in the

551
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.559
northern part of the municipality of Medida, which has the

552
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.359
administrative status of precinct. Since nineteen ninety, property developers have

553
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.839
had their eye on its land with a view to

554
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.079
building luxury residential developments and shopping centers. Great because we

555
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.160
need another Dave Mbusters. The area has recently acquired commercial

556
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.359
value because it is near the highway connecting the state

557
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.720
capital to the port of Progresso. As a result, the

558
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.240
current Ehilo commissioners working hand in hand with officials from

559
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:34.039
instructions like the Agrarian Mbudsman and the National Agrarian Registry,

560
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.599
have sold off much of Chablikao's land. In order to

561
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.480
reclaim their right to the territory, the community set up

562
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.319
the Chablikaal Residents Union in twenty fourteen. Since the establishment

563
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.440
of the union, residents have reclaimed Mysenevalam lands, which take

564
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.119
their name from an old Hennigan producing acienda. So there's

565
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.920
that one. This next part says the agro industrial production

566
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.599
of Hennigan led to the Maya people living in the

567
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.440
esciendas and surrounding villae gradually leaving corn farming behind and

568
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.559
instead taking up grueling jobs on Hennagen farms, fenced offf

569
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.400
areas in need of a permanent labor force. In spite

570
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.559
of this, the agavet monoculture did not wipe out either

571
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.559
the meaf Ba workers or the scrubland, as maps of

572
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.759
the mes Nebelam macienda dating back to Porfirio d. S's

573
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.319
time clearly illustrate. For this reason. When the revolutionary regime

574
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.200
began to distribute land after the collapse of the Porfirato,

575
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.680
both scrubland and Hennigan farms passed into the possession of

576
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.640
Maya workers. Oh wow, this is really cool. There is

577
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.880
a detailed map of the meis Nevala macienda. This is

578
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.160
credited to Carlos Miramon, Yucatan in nineteen o two. The

579
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.319
area labeled Monte indicates that the scrublands were not destroyed,

580
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.480
or at least not entirely. Oh, I am saving this picture.

581
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.519
That is so cool. This whole chapter, Like it says

582
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.359
in the beginning, it's talking about indigenous territory. I guess

583
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.640
the struggle for claiming or reclaiming lands just land grabs

584
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:14.679
in role to end it on such a high positive note, right,

585
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.559
Welcome back, gool friends. Thank you once again for joining

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