My Horror Confessional with Miguel Villa

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the show. And yeah, let's get

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into today's episode. I'm very excited
today we have Miguel Villa from My Horror

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Confessional. A couple of weeks ago, I was over on Miguel's show.

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We watched the movie Leeddaa ba Leik. It was an amazing movie and Miguel

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is a phenomenal host. So I
highly recommend that you go and check out

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his episode that I was on and
all of his other episodes to be honest,

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but today Miguel visited Susto. He
dropped by the Haunted House and he

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was just as phenomenal as he was
to host. He was an amazing guest.

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We talked about many different things and
I'm excited for you to hear this

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conversation. So just a little bit
about Miguel. I'm gonna read my bio

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for him here. Each week in
the Confessional, Miguel has a guest on

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who will confess to not having seen
a classic horror movie. Join him as

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he discusses the movie, why his
guest hasn't seen it, what their history

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with horror is, and other topics. If at the end of the sho

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show he feels as if they have
truly repented, he will absolve them of

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their horror sin. Join him every
week and let's geek out on the movies

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we love amazing. So, without
any further ado, let's get into today's

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episode, which is an interview with
migev Via from My Horror Confessional. Well,

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girlfriends, today we have a very
special treat. Pull out your rosaries,

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your Bibles, your prayer journals.
We are joined today by Father Miguel

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pad Mighel from My Horror Confessional.
Miguel, thank you so much for being

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here today, Lavendion, right off
the bat, yes, thank you.

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Please hands it over the cracker and
the wine of course. Of course,

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this is really such a fun treat
for me. For those of you who

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don't know, if you haven't listened, I was actually on My Horror Confessional

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on the ninth, February ninth,
So make sure to go check out Migo's

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show. It is such a great
show. And actually I'm just gonna let

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him tell you a little bit more
about that. Yeah, of course.

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So My Horror Professional is a classic
horror movie podcast or every week I have

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a guest come on and talk about
one classic horror movie that they haven't seen

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and why. Then they'll watch it
for the show and we just talk about

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it. We get into about the
guests, I'm sorry about the actors,

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about the movie itself, and we
just get off script a lot and just

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talk about other shit, like as
you're aware, we got into a lot

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of different topics. So yeah,
that's the reason why I do that is

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because everybody's talking about the newest movies
that come out always, but I'm really

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I want to have conversations about the
because I am older and like the seventies

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is my favorite decade in horror,
right there with the eighties. But like,

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not a lot of people talk about
those movies, so I wanted to

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talk to them about it. And
also I like to have long form conversations.

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I am incapable of having an episode
less than two hours, and I

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know that doesn't rub people. Some
people can't do it. Completely understand my

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podcast isn't for you, but I
like having those long form conversations and getting

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into different topics with people. So
yeah, we come out every Friday,

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and the movie has to be at
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we're doing movies that were made in
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And you came on and you talked
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because you're a classic motherfucker. It
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film from the sixties, which I
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lot of people pick them, and
I mean I loved it, and I

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believe you end up loving it as
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five upside down crosses. We sure
did. It was honestly hold on,

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look, I don't know if you
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my headphones out of my ears,
so I missed the last few seconds of

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that but I did want to say
either way about the length of your podcasts

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personally, so susto. As you
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It's anywhere from like twenty to forty
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have longer episodes, but personally I
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the people who listen while they clean, shower, drive work, those long

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ones are perfect and I love those. So yeah, I appreciate the working,

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the effort that goes into creating something
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you know, like I think the
general rule of thumb for those who

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maybe do not create content like this
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whatever time it took too or however
long the raw material is double that,

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and then that's usually the amount of
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it together. Yeah, that's a
that's a great point. Yeah, I

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can't even imagine. It's a kudos
to you, thank you. So I

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do want to mention, by the
by the way, for you all listening,

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we are recording video of this episode. This is a Patreon exclusive,

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Hi, these are our faces.
Thank you for being here. And I

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want to address something really shocking right
off the bat, something that you told

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me after I recorded with you,
and I said, we got to get

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you on susta is And I don't
know I'm gonna break this without getting emotional,

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but you told me that you are
fully a skeptic. I am one

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hundred percent of skeptic. Yeah,
yes, I am I And I am

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the type of person to roll my
eyes when I hear stories I'm like,

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oh God, so I I like, I am trying to be a better

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person because I know that there's not
everybody wants to hang out with somebody like

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that. But yeah, I am
a reformer Catholic. I'm a recovering Catholic.

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I should say. I should say
like I have religious trauma. That's

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why my podcast is called My Whole
Conventional. But yeah, I'm an atheist

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now. And with being an atheist, you know, you kind of like,

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for me personally, I'm not stepping
on anybody's beliefs or anything like that,

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but for me personally, when when
you become an atheist, you kind

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of let go of a lot of
the stuff that that comes with religious trauma.

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And you don't even really realize that
it's so ingrained in you and in

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our in our culture and especially in
Hispanic culture, that you don't even think

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it's it's tied to religion, but
it is. It's tied to religion.

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And so it's like I have decided
to no longer allow religion to have hold

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over me. And I know that's
that that's like the lame answer, like

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but like that that that's the viewpoint
that I've seen stuff. And so when

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people talk about ghosts, well,
because there's because there's ghosts. Ghosts are

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your spirit form, right, spirit
comes from religion because you're you're you're told

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that you have a soul. Right, I don't think you have a soul,

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So there's no So there's no ghosts. So that's me. That's me.

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But if shit goes bump in the
night, I will be scared and

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I will scooby. Yes, like
they say there's no atheists in a foxhole.

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Like if I'm in a if it
feels haunted, I will scooby do

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my ass out of the room.
You know, Yeah, I mean no,

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listen, I I honestly, the
perspective of a skeptic is always welcome

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to me. I consume this content, and I I always I have this,

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like I feel like a healthy dose
of skepticism because not everything is immediately

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paranormal. It's not always spooky like
there's usually an explanation. And I think,

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as someone who is really into this
kind of stuff, the scarier things

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are the things that you say.
You go down the list and you say,

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okay, how can I debunk this. The further down you get on

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that list without being able to debunk
it, that's when it gets really exciting.

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So I think you need skepticism at
some point. So I listen.

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I don't judge you. You should. You should well because I have I

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have friends, like, well,
my whole family, Like I had my

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best friend growing up, wouldn't watch
The Exorcists with me because this is the

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diablal right. It's like it's like, come on, man, I would

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like cut myself off from certain movies. And I want to experience everything that

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is horror movies like all genres,
all all decades, everything I want to

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experience at all. And so I'm
not going to cut myself off from that

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because you know, the church said
I shouldn't watch a movie whatever, which

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in fact, the church gained so
many new followers when the Exorcists came out,

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like that was like there, it's
like they're Super Bowl or something like

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that, because people watch it and
they go running to the church. So

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it's like they want they want those
movies. Oh for sure, it's like

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a it's kind of like propaganda almost. Well, yeah, this is I

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mean, this is a little off
topic. I didn't have this pan,

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but it made me think of the
did you watch the new Exorcist movie,

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like The Double Believer something? Yeah, I haven't. No, I haven't

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had a chance to see it yet. Oh okay, well, if you

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want to spoil go I don't.
I don't. Well no, no,

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no real spoilers. I'll just say
I want you to watch it and then

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let me know what you think,
especially with the idea of propaganda in your

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head, which I never really like
officially thought of it that way. But

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my boyfriend and I went to see
it and and I left and I was

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like, that was just like full
on, like you know, like a

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Catholic infomercial or something. And he
was like, well, that's what all

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demon movies are. He's like,
what do you think they're made for?

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And I was like, holy shit, Yeah, well it really is.

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It scares people back into the church. So just an interesting point of topic.

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I'm definite gonna check it out now. And even along with that,

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like the way that you killed a
vampire Dracula's with a cross right or holy

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water or you know, even with
I think you can do it with werewolves

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as well, or something like that. You know, it's just it's just

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it's ingrained in us. And yeah, it's something I'm actively fighting against for

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myself. The ultimate superpower is Christ. Well, with that being said,

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I have a couple of questions for
you today now that we've addressed the skeptic

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elephant in the room. So I
do want to ask because again, your

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show is so interesting to me,
and I think that there's a lot of

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intersections that we as creators in our
own shows would come across. So I

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wanted you to share some insights into
your approach to analyzing and discussing these films

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on your show. Yeah. So
for me, I started my podcast in

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twenty twenty one, and I wanted
to do it it because I wasn't hearing

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my voice something that good, one
good thing that came out of something that

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was absolutely terrible. Like the summer
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with COVID and all the Black Lives
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One good thing that came out of
it was that there was some light

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shone on people of color content creators
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so I, well, this was
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life. The reason why I'm like
I do a solo podcast is because I

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don't have the support in my life
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because I'm Latino. My family is
like, oh, we don't watch that

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sort of shit. So and my
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we're Latino, they didn't watch it. So I had to do it myself.

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But so out of twenty twenty came
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Mortem, which is one of my
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I also found like Johnny and Nileen
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of that as well. Girl,
that's scary, Like these are. I

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don't like saying the minorities like people
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what we are. The you know, white people are the global minority.

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We are the global majority. And
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like, you know, they can
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do it as well, and so
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do something like that, but I
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it. And my twist was the
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grew up watching. You know,
my brother, my oldest brother, was

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eight or nine years older than me
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was big into like eighties horror movies
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Alvesty Street and the Jason movies and
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a lot of people, while they
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a lot of the older stuff.
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it, and that that comes with
watching the movie with that point of mind

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of like, wait, why did
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see or even even like the way
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that, it just started coming around
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keeping that in mind when I am
when I'm scoring things also the type of

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movie that I will allow or that
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have I'm going to try to have
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I'm not gonna you know. That's
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I'll ast for three or three movies
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kind of tailor it for them.
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rape revenge film, like I just
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was a film producer. She did
I Spit on Your Grave, which is

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a rape revenge film, and it's
really really nasty. It's a thirty minute

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there's a thirty minute essay scene,
it's it's it's terrible. But I wouldn't

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just have that with some some random
guy, you know. I want to

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have that with a woman, a
woman who knows that because I told her,

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you know, trigger warnings, and
she she actually loves the rape revenge

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sub genre, so she wanted she
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come, I come through my movies, uh, with that lens and when,

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But also trying to keep it funny, you know. I try.

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I we don't always like have like
two hour long conversations on why, you

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know, maybe a man should not
have directed I spit on your grave or

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something like that, you know,
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it's perfect. It's yeah. It's
a very a delicate balance, and I

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think that's why it's, uh,
it's not for everyone to facilitate those discussions,

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right, because it is hard to
do. It's hard to navigate that.

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And again, I think that just
goes to show the amount of work

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and the amount of care that you
put into producing these episodes, because again,

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you're not just making content just to
make content. You're actively looking for

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people who have maybe deeper insights and
for lack of a better word, just

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a better perspective on these conversations again
that you're trying to have. So yeah,

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super appreciate that. Yeah, thank
you. Yeah, I just want

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to say one with you. I
just realized that I'm trying to amplify the

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voices that that I feel should be
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all movies require it, you know, like Demons wouldn't necessarily require specific voice,

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but there are some that do.
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earlier, like these. I guess
these waves of like horror in pop culture,

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and so I think like eighties,
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the great eras of horror. But
and I don't know, it's something that

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I've noticed, and I want to
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too. Is is I don't know
if I'm noticing it because now I'm creating

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this content, or if it's something
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there is this sort of like a
renaissance of people of color in horror.

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Is that something that you've noticed or
or maybe it's just something that again,

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like I'm noticing because now I'm in
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definitely, you know, So to
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the movies. We've always been making
it. Oscar Micheau is one of the

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first directors ever, and we're talking
like the twenties and thirties, and he

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was a black man, but he
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back then. So our voices have
always been and when I say our I'm

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not black when I'm saying people of
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that sometimes the the majority don't don't
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or whatever. But yeah, recently, within you know, the last decade

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or so, especially with like Jordan
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The Horror Noir which just came on

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the scene and blew everything up because
it showed that history of black people making

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horror movies and people of color being
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we're getting the chance to tell our
stories, even something with like pod Borom

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just did it two weeks ago.
So His House. Have you seen this

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movie? It's called His House.
It's a fairly new movie within the last

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five years. It was a Netflix
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about refugees from I don't want to
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Sudan. I'm not remembering exactly,
but it's a war torn African country and

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their refugees from then they come over
to the UK and they get this house

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and the house is either haunted or
something is happening, and that kind of

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okay, Like I never in a
million years would have thought that we would

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see that movie, and we saw
that that movie got to be created and

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it was amazing. It's a great
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know, the people are giving chances
and even like the New Candyman, they

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came out a couple of years ago
forgetting the woman's name that did that,

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but you know, so she was
very young as a black woman that they

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gave the chance to make a horror
film and she fucking knocked it out of

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the park. And even with like
Ryan Cooler who did a Black Panther,

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like it's not a horror film,
but as the budget for Black Panther and

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Black Panther too, over one hundred
million dollars. And you see, when

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you give people the money, the
resources, they can do it just as

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well as anybody else. So that
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now into horror films, which is
great, and we're starting to hear some

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of our voices even in horror literature. So I am on Gulish, the

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Gaulish podcast network, and Grulish is
a bookstore in San Antonio. My friend

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Max Booth o Uh and his wife
Laurie Booth own and because it's a horror

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all they do is sell horror books
there. And so because of that I'm

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getting I'm seeing on the shelves more
black writers, more Hispanic writers, more

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like non white writers that I'm seeing, and it's just great. Like Laticioeta

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who's in Austin. I've had her
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she writes from a woman's perspective,
surets horror, and it's just you know,

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we are as talented and if not
more talented than others, and now

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in many cases, in many cases, yeah, like one of my mottos

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is just like handle yourself with the
confidence of a mediocre white man, and

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you'll go so much farther, you
know, absolutely, just a really healthy,

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sometimes unhealthy dose of delusion goes a
very long way. Delulu is the

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Sululu. Yeah, I mean yeah, I think that's extremely important to note

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that our our voices have always been
there. I think definitely now that there

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is kind of like an amplification of
them, uh, because of maybe access

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to resources and to access to even
channels that are free. You know,

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it's free to sign up for social
media and build your following that way.

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I think now there are different opportunities. In some ways, there are more

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opportunities that are allowing us again to
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So. Yeah, I think wow
that I think that's that's an amazing answer.

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I think that gives listeners a lot
of resources to to go and check

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out and uh and to see that, Yeah, our voices have always been

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present. I think that that kind
of answers the next question. I'll ask

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either way, but I want it
And again, I think you kind of

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touched on this definitely. But I
wonder know if you think that cultural backgrounds

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influence our own perceptions of horror and
and the paranormal in general. Yeah,

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I think so definitely with the culture, even specifically, like with like Hispanic

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culture. So there's a movie that
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it's an it was anthology film with
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I should say, and cast and
crew or whatever, and uh, yeah,

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one one of the people on there
was Gigisal Guerrero, which she's this

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amazing up and coming director, and
so that it got to showcase like four

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I don't remember if it was four
or five different viewpoints of that, they're

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not all Mexican, and they're not
all some are like Central America and some

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are like from from the eye,
you know, like I'm Mexican and Puerto

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Rican, so like I get both
sides of it. But no matter where

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you go, we're gonna not all
Latinos are the same, right, so

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it's going to be a different viewpoint, which I really really appreciate. But

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expanding from that, just like looking
at what like South Korea is doing for

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horror films, like they just the
movies coming out of South Korea are just

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if you or your audience hasn't seen
these movies, they're absolutely amazing, fantastic.

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Some of the best movies like Parasite
Trained to Bussan, like those movies

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will absolutely destroy you. There's some
of the best movies put on film ever,

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so good. Then you have like
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French extreme, which like in America
we had we had gore porn right like

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in the midst mid two thousands up
until like just the last couple of years,

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it's kind of tapered down, which
it's kind of I'm happy because it

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was never really my genre. I
wasn't a big fan of core porn,

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yeah, yeah, but but the
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Uh. There's a movie called Martyrs, which I won't go get into,

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but it is so fucking brutal.
They so America is like when they were

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doing Gore porn, it was like
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little cousin who you watch putting on
a little play and you're like, oh,

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you're clapping all that's so cute.
The French took that and just revolutionized

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and just made it into an art
form. Martyrs. It's not for everybody.

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There's movies that are not for everybody. So if you if you can't

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handle extreme Gore, do not watch
this movie. But Martyrs is absolutely like

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a work of art and the French
just because that's what the French do.

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And they also did this movie called
Inside, which is absolutely amazing. Tuesday,

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there was like a French one that
was yes, oh my god,

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yeah I love the theater and I
was like it's a great story, but

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like, yeah, I was like
Gore is it's just like re solidified.

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That was like Gore is just not
for me. It was like, oh

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my god. It was a lot. If anybody chooses to watch that one

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just go in very careful, a
please, yeah, this isn't one of

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the ones that like you get together
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like this is some serious shit.
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and then if you go over to
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ramps shit up and just like puts
their flare to it. Like in the

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eighties with like Luccio Focci and Mario
Baba and Dario Argento they did they were

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doing giallo, which if people don't
know, giallo literally is like the color

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yellow, but it's these it's like
slashers, but with like with style and

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panache and like flair. It's got
a it's gonna have like a mysterious killer

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black gloves. It's gonna take care, it's gonna take place in the fashion

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industry. These women are gonna be
so being you know what, and it's

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just gonna it's gonna be absolutely beautiful. So that's what they put onto it.

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you know, they're gonna put their
their own spin on it. And then

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like you're gonna be able to be
like Oh wow, this is why,

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like they're known for this, right, So yeah, so I definitely think

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that your cultural background definitely comes into
play when you're when you're like talking about

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what you're creating. Yeah, it's
kind of hard for it not to.

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I think, like just even subconsciously, when you create content, even if

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it's not specifically centered on like culture, it's it's hard. It's hard to

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avoid your own background kind of like
showing up. So it's really great I

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think when people embrace that and they
bring their culture to the forefront and their

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creation. So speaking on that kind
of topic, a lot of classic horror

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movies draw inspiration from folklore and from
urban legends. So I wanted to if

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you've noticed any recurring themes or motifs
both in classic horror films and parnormal folklore

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from again the LATNX and Hispanic to
Aspra. I will and we touched on

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at a bit in the beginning because
I can't help and not like talk for

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my soapbox about like being anti religion. But yeah, in in LATINX horror

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movies, a lot of times,
the church is the good guy. The

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church is the one that's going to
save you, and so that's something that

406
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:36.079
I noticed, even even with like, you know, I'm not one hundred

407
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:44.079
up on on like folklore, which
is really I I really should do that,

408
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.559
and maybe I'll ask you for some
recommendations. Because the way I got

409
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.640
into so I'm I'm an avid reader. And the way I got into reading

410
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.759
is that my father would drop me
off at the library on a Saturday.

411
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.240
Uh and and I was like eight
years old by my I had my library

412
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.640
card and I would go there and
he would come pick me up when it

413
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.559
opened. He dropped me off and
he come picked me up when it closed,

414
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.440
and I was reading all of their
all the books that they had.

415
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.519
They had on Greek mythology, and
then Greek mythology led me into like superhero

416
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.920
comics, and and then like that
led me into like but also the same

417
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.279
time horror movies and stuff like that. So I'm really I know about like

418
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.680
Greek mythology, but I don't really
know a lot about Latin LATINX mythology.

419
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:33.640
So I just know like the big
stuff like le kokoy and that sort of

420
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.359
shit. Kokoy is just yeah,
you know, but like I've never That's

421
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.119
why, like I love listening to
to your podcast because you put me,

422
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.960
you put me onto that sort of
stuff. But but from just from my

423
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.519
eyes, from what I've seen,
a recurring theme as just like their church

424
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.079
being the good guy. But some
of the movies that I love the most

425
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:02.400
are when writers and directors the church
up to a mirror and reflected back to

426
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.799
us to show the hypocrisy of it. So, for example, one of

427
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:13.279
my favorite movies of all time is
Alukarta, which is from the seventies,

428
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.480
is from Mexico, and it's basically
like a nonsploitation subgenre. So are you

429
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.440
familiar with the nunsplitation subgenre. I'm
not at all. Yeah, I didn't

430
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.880
expect it to be. But so
so whenever you say something exploitation always comes

431
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.640
from black exploitation, right, which
is the seventies, which came about from

432
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:38.279
when black people started being able to
tell stories like their own stories. But

433
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:44.559
because they were most of the time
white producers and white directors, they were

434
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.480
choosing the types of stories that were
being told, and a lot of times

435
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.160
it was about the ghetto, and
it was about drugs and crime and pinch,

436
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.720
right, which so that's where the
exploitation part of it comes from.

437
00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.240
It. But the positive part about
it was that people took that and saw

438
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.119
their own saw themselves in it,
and then started creating their own stuff,

439
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.559
right, So that's what I love. So so there's other exploitation genre.

440
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.759
So one of them is non exploitation
the subgenre, and that's when you have

441
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.640
sexy nuns or something like that.
They're always like very lesbian nuns and stuff

442
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:25.920
like that, but it's always it's
always, not always, but the ones

443
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.160
that do with the best, right, because there's some that are just straight

444
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.400
up porn. But the ones that
do with the best, they put the

445
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.359
church up to a light and show
the hypocrisy of it. And that's what

446
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:42.599
a Lacarta does. It's two women
who are artists convents and they kind of

447
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.720
find each other and then they kind
of just take the whole convent down and

448
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.480
it's just so fucking good. Some
of the some of the imagery Alakarta,

449
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.319
Yeah, which is basically just Dracula
backwards. Oh okay, a Lakarta,

450
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.759
I think, yeah, and then
maybe they put in an extra a I

451
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.279
can't, I can't think right now, but yeah, it's Alokarta. And

452
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:12.639
then there's another one in a similar
vein called satanical Pandemonium, which myself and

453
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.960
my friend Anthony Jeromem, who is
a huge fan of yours, and when

454
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.199
I told him that I was coming
on, he was so excited. Oh

455
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:27.199
I follow him online, handy Hi. Yeah, So we did. We

456
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.519
did for my second season on my
show I did. I stuck, so

457
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:36.280
I didn't plan on doing this,
but I had Anthony Jeromem on my show

458
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.440
and we did Black Christmas, which
is a proto slasher from nineteen seventy four.

459
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:45.840
When I say proto slashers, like
before Halloween and it's before Namara Elmstreet

460
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.320
and before all that sort of stuff, so before what we know as a

461
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.880
slasher. And so he came on
to talk about it, loved it.

462
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.679
But then in the process of recording
that I said that he hated the seventies.

463
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.039
I was like, wait, what, as I just told you,

464
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.920
in the seventies is my favorite sub
genre. So I literally stopped everything else

465
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.119
was doing. I never intended on
having seasons. I stopped it at season

466
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.760
one and we started season two and
it became my seventies Confessional where I did

467
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:20.000
ten episodes with Anthony, one movie
for every year, so nineteen seventy seventy

468
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.960
so we did ten episodes and one
of the ones we did was Satanic of

469
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:30.320
Panemonium, and we both absolutely loved
it. It's another nuns ploitation film,

470
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.320
but it's name alone just sounds so
sick, Like, yeah, I mean,

471
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.079
it's so good that Quentin Tarantina ripped
it off for the name of his

472
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:45.559
character of for samahayak In from Dustill
Dawn, her name was Satanic Panemonium and

473
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.440
completely ripped off the name. But
which that's what he does. But I'm

474
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.920
not going to get into that,
but but yeah, so I just got

475
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.280
off on a tangent. But yeah, those are some of the Oh we

476
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:01.320
were talking about the nuns plotation subject. Yeah, wow, God, I

477
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.519
feel like I feel like I needed
I hope everybody is taking notes. We

478
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:10.000
are going to be forming a study
guide an outline of writing in your prayer

479
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.760
journals, because this is all such
like I'm eating all of this information up.

480
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.519
But I'm really grateful that you're also
explaining a lot of these phrases or

481
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.400
terms because they're they're very new to
me. So again I appreciate that.

482
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.800
Yeah, are there do you think
are there any specific Latin American horror films

483
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.119
that you have found I mean,
I feel like you just covered them.

484
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.599
You find them particularly intriguing in their
incorporation of pretermal folklore. I don't know,

485
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.679
I feel like you answered that with
satanic pandemonium. Hard word to say,

486
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.679
and yeah, I would want to
just mention some more because I came

487
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:52.760
across these are ones that so I'll
see right now that I am so jealous

488
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.920
of and what Johnny and Eileen are
doing because that was literally the idea that

489
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:02.960
I had. I wanted to focus
on LATINX horror movies. I just didn't

490
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.440
think that there was an audience for
it. Then when I saw that they

491
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.159
were doing it, I'm like,
well, I can't do it better than

492
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:15.079
them, so I flipped it.
I did something else. But for your

493
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.880
listeners, I'm sure they're they're aware, but if they're not, weko they

494
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.639
do every week, well now they're
every other week, but they'll do a

495
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:30.480
movie from the LATINX diaspora, and
I absolutely love that because it's put me

496
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.119
onto some of them, some movies. But I had a chance to come

497
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.559
on their show maybe a year or
so ago, and I brought to them

498
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.840
mccaudio. Mccaudio is a Mexican film
black and White from nineteen sixty and it

499
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:50.519
was actually Mexico's first entrance into the
Oscars. They didn't end up winning that

500
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.840
year, but it was the first
time that they were nominated. But mccadio

501
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:58.960
is supernatural, and it's it's on
the verge of being horror. It's horror

502
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.679
lights, you know. But the
story that is told in there is absolutely

503
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:10.760
beautiful. It's studying. The imagery
is so great. It's about this peasants

504
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.800
who just have a really rough life
and he comes to he's in the desert

505
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.920
and all he wants is a turkey
for himself. He has like five or

506
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.679
six kids and they're all grubbing it
any food he gets. And he's skinny

507
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.480
because he can't get any food because
he has to give it to his kids.

508
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.039
And all he wants is a turkey
for himself. And one day his

509
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.239
wife. This happens within the first
ten minutes. I'm not spoiling anything.

510
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.119
His wife steals one from from somebody
and gives it to him and he takes

511
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.960
out to the desert. And first
of all, the wife is amazing,

512
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.880
like she would she could have gone
to jail and like gotten killed, but

513
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.880
she's like, I know you need
this someone to do this for you,

514
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.239
because they're always there, they're always
putting that situation. But he goes to

515
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.000
the he takes his turkey and he
goes to the desert of the forest or

516
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.920
whatever, and then he's come across
by three people and one of them being

517
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.960
deaf, and then it just goes
from there and it's just a great folk

518
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:16.320
tour of folk story Marcadio from nineteen
sixty. The other one I say,

519
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:22.800
I'll say is like there's like two
others. I'm sorry, like Poison for

520
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:28.920
the Fairies, amazing seventies film takes
place in like this all girls dormitorium.

521
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:37.559
It's so good. And then Eliscultos
the Skeleton of Signora Morades, that's a

522
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:42.039
black and white Mexican film. I'm
so happy that I'm having somebody come on.

523
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.400
Actually, Mikey p Is gonna be
coming on and talking about that,

524
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.679
because that was one I was saving
four Latin Latin a person to do.

525
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.320
And but yeah, I would recommend
any of those films. There's so many

526
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.519
great films. Like if you go
watch any of those films, you'll go

527
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.360
down a rabbit hole of other direct
and all that sort of stuff. The

528
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:08.159
level. The quality of like horror
movies made by latinos is just immense.

529
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:14.360
And there's another person called trash trash
mechs on Instagram. He doesn't only focus

530
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:20.599
on doesn't only focus on horror.
He does like Mexican crime dramas, all

531
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:27.079
that sort of shit. He puts
a spotlight on, like the Mexican movie

532
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.559
industry from like the seventies and eighties, a lot of shit that like would

533
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:31.360
have just been tossed to the side. He's like, no, no,

534
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:37.119
no, let's reevaluate this shit is
really good. Yeah, and I'll shut

535
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:42.599
up. Sorry, no, please, don't shut up again. So many

536
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.519
good like resources. I'm like creating
a list in my head. I'm like,

537
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.599
Okay, I need to go watch
all of these ASoP. Do you

538
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:57.639
think that exploring classic horror movies and
thinking about paranormal folklore contributes to a deeper

539
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:02.119
understanding of both those subs, of
both the folklore itself and the movie.

540
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.639
Yeah, definitely. I think so
that That's one of the things that I

541
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.719
love doing. Like when we when
well, I'll watch the movie is then

542
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.480
I'll go research the movie afterwards,
and I'll I'll go to see, like

543
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.480
where did this come from so for
example, for the movie that you and

544
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:25.519
I did, Diebeliques came from a
French novel written by these two dudes,

545
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.760
and that story was a kernel of
a truth from a story in France,

546
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.440
right, So, and then so
when I'm researching the movies that I'm doing,

547
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:45.159
lot oftentimes I'll find that, especially
like in Asian culture Japan or China,

548
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.039
or like South Korea, a lot
of the movies that they're making are

549
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:54.840
based off of their their own folklore, which is which is great well and

550
00:41:54.880 --> 00:42:00.280
even even with with us with latinos
as well, Like I can't say have

551
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.440
any lego on a movie I've seen, right, I think I think Leyodona

552
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.679
has been done. We've covered it
from all bases. I think we can

553
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.480
move on from that. But it
is like so, I think we see

554
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.760
it so many times because it's such
part, huge part of our of our

555
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.800
culture. One of the movies,
one of the folklores that I haven't seen,

556
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:23.079
actually Anthony Jerol mem that put me
onto it was the story of the

557
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.239
girl like who goes to a dance
and dances with the devil. Yeah,

558
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.840
the girl who dance the devil?
Yeah yeah. And I don't think i've

559
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.760
seen that in like film form,
even like a short horror film or something

560
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.719
like that, and I would love
to see that. But it's I just

561
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:38.760
want to say, it's so funny
you say that. I was having a

562
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:45.519
conversation with the friend recently and I've, like, ever since I started sustill,

563
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.159
I've had this idea. It would
be a dream to work with a

564
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.800
team of like writers and filmmakers to
do even like a short film and like

565
00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:00.159
a reimagination even of the story of
the girl who danced with the real from

566
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.280
like a queer perspective and like,
yeah, kind of sharing some of like

567
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.920
sharing a story from my own personal
life that I won't get into now,

568
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:15.360
but I think would lend itself in
a really impactful way to retelling that story.

569
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.119
So if there's a production team out
there that wants to work with me,

570
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.239
I don't have a lot of money. I would love to make that

571
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.440
happen one day. Listen, I
want that for you. I want to

572
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.079
hear that as well that I think
that would be amazing. Listen. I

573
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.000
would just say, I'm just put
this out there. I think you and

574
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.719
Anthony Jerome m would hit it off
completely like he is he is like the

575
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.280
opposite of me. He believes in
and all this stuff, and he like

576
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.880
listens to you and he loves that
sort of stuff. He like consumes it

577
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.960
a lot. So he's he put
me onto that one. And that's one

578
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.519
of the ones that I'm really interested
in seeing. I would love to see

579
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.039
what you could do with that.
I think it would be great. And

580
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.760
I'll just I'll tell you this right
now. I'm not I didn't come here

581
00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.280
to be a motivational speaker anything like
that, but I think that you are

582
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:05.679
so talented and you would be able
to You could put you can do it.

583
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.480
You just have to find the resources, right. We don't know how

584
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:15.360
to have the resources. But like
for myself, I was thinking I wanted

585
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.079
to write comics, but I was
like, I don't know, I don't

586
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.840
know how to do it. Then
my friend Zach Chapman he started writing comics

587
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.920
as well, and I was like, Oh, that's really cool, but

588
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.719
that's for him. Then I was
like, you know what, like nobody's

589
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.239
going to come to my door and
say you can now start writing comics.

590
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.280
Nobody came to his door and said
he can start writing comics. I just

591
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:44.360
had to like believe in myself and
start doing it. And writing comics is

592
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.960
different from making a fucking movie.
So I completely understand, you know,

593
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:50.079
because a lot of it is just
me, like writing and shit like that.

594
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.880
But but I started doing that,
and now like I have like two

595
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.840
or three stories and two or three
comics that I have out or that will

596
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.920
be out and shortly and that Like
I look back for myself a year or

597
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.480
two from a year or two ago, and I would have been like,

598
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.159
there's no way that that same person
would have done this. But I just

599
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:15.079
just started doing it because I started
carrying myself with like with the you know,

600
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:16.679
like like a mediocre white man.
Right, just do it. Just

601
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.599
fucking do it because nobody's gonna come
to your door and say you can now

602
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.960
do it, which that would be
great because if somebody would just had a

603
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.000
bunch of money, I'd be like, go seating over it, just because

604
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.199
you'll make a dope best movie.
I mean, now, listen. I

605
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.239
love hearing that, and I love
having this conversation. I've said it many

606
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.079
times before. I've had people ask
me, you know, like, hey,

607
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.039
then this is kind of off topic, but this is the motivational hour

608
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.239
on Sustyll. But like when people
ask me about wanting to start their own

609
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.639
even podcasts or their own kind of
creative venture and they ask for a piece

610
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.880
of advice. My first piece of
advice is always just do it. Just

611
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:57.719
do Just put out your first episode, write your first story. Just do

612
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:04.159
something, because I guarantee you in
in a month, in six months,

613
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.760
in a year, and a couple
of years down the line. Yeah,

614
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.599
you're probably gonna look back at it
and be like that was dog shit kind

615
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:15.639
of and maybe not hopefully not right. But you're you're never going to progress,

616
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.960
You're never going to get better,
You're never going to create a catalog

617
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.840
until you just start, until you
take the first step, and you just

618
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.000
you just you have to make it
happen, because, like you said,

619
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.199
no one is going to knock on
your door and say, hey, you

620
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:34.039
have permission out to do this thing. You you you can absolutely make it

621
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.000
happen. And I know, you
know there are going to be barriers to

622
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:43.320
and like, uh two resources.
So I know it's like, you know,

623
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:47.199
it's not easy to like invest money
in certain things. But like when

624
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.960
I when I started toust, you
know, I'm still using the same microphone

625
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.360
that I had when I first started
this show. I have plans to invest

626
00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:00.199
in a setup soon hopefully or too, you know, to raise the funds

627
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.360
for that because it is expensive.
But you know, I bought like a

628
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.960
less than one hundred dollars microphone at
the time, and I used the computer

629
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:15.760
that I already had, you know, taught myself. It's like, it's

630
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.519
hard to I think, walk that
line of telling people like, just make

631
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.920
it happen for yourself. But again
with realizing that, yes, sometimes there

632
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.679
are various access but I don't know, I don't know how to say it.

633
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:28.559
I feel like if if a lot
of the time, if you want

634
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.800
to make something happen, you can, and if there's gonna be those barriers

635
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.280
in your way, do not be
one of those barriers for yourself. There's

636
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.159
gonna be plenty to get in your
way and to block you, and there's

637
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.280
gonna be obstacles. Don't be one
of those things for yourself. Just like

638
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.679
make it happen. And to your
point earlier, you were saying about when

639
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.760
you wanted to start this show,
and then you saw Johnny and Eileen and

640
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.000
you were like, oh, I
don't know that doubt I think comes from

641
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.679
a place sometimes of not thinking like
there's room for everyone. And that's something

642
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.960
that I I consistently say is there
is there's space for all of us.

643
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.559
There's room for all of us.
Even if you're doing the same thing as

644
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.039
somebody else, hopefully without you know, like completely ripping someone off. You

645
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.400
know, you're gonna have your own
perspective. No one is you, no

646
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.599
one you know has your thoughts.
So I think if you come to it

647
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.400
from a genuine place, you're gonna
have your own perspective. So even if

648
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.360
you're doing something similar to somebody else, that's fine. There's room for both

649
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.599
of you. There are so many
people out there. There are some people

650
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:35.559
that want different kinds of content,
and you're not going to know what this

651
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.000
people want until you make it and
then they say, hey, I actually

652
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:42.079
like the way that that you do
this. I like the way that you

653
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.639
say it, So I'm going to
come listen to you, maybe while also

654
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:50.400
simultaneously listening to the person that you
thought, you know, you were too

655
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.119
similar to. I don't know.
That's my soapbox there. Well, and

656
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.519
I'll just say that to piggyback on
that is is really important to not let

657
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:04.559
the perfect be the enemy of the
good enough right for me For the longest

658
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.239
time, everything needed to be perfect. My idea needed to be pitch perfect.

659
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:14.039
I needed to have I wanted to
start with like ten episodes in the

660
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:19.000
can, which I did like seven
to start off with, and I wanted

661
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.599
like to do all the research.
And then I burnt myself out. I

662
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.400
burnt myself out a lot where like
I had to take it like a six

663
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.440
month sabbatical or break because I just
completely burnt myself out. I came back

664
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.880
and I retold it to what I
can do. But yeah, because I

665
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.880
didn't want the perfect to be the
enemy of the good. So you know,

666
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.000
you can find a way to do
it. And yeah, so I

667
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.519
would just just recommend just just getting
it out there, just doing it and

668
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:51.960
just seeing I think you're surprise.
People will surprise themselves by what they're able

669
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.400
to do. Yeah. Yeah,
And I think ultimately that that idea of

670
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.400
like your idea of perfect, it
will come. You know. I have

671
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.239
I have tools now that I've created
for Sustal, Like you know, like

672
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.840
I have an elevator pitch basically,
I have like a one sentence elevator pitch

673
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.840
for Sustal that like a couple of
years ago, I would have never been

674
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.639
able to like condense it and make
it concise and like describe it to someone,

675
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.960
you know. But now when somebody
asks about it, I have it

676
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.840
down to a science, like I
know exactly what to say that I feel

677
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:29.440
fully kind of like describes what susto
is. And so, yeah, those

678
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:32.559
things will come to you. Those
those ideas that people have a perfection in

679
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.800
their head, they're going to come. Ultimately, they will happen, and

680
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.079
then when you get there, you're
going to have a different idea of like

681
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.360
you know, like oh this could
be better, are this could be perfect

682
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.679
or you know, like I don't. I don't think it's it's a negative

683
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.920
thing to strive for that perfection.
But again, don't let it be your

684
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.800
enemy exactly. All right, Well, yeah, we'll move on from the

685
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.760
from the inspirational set. So I
only have a few more questions for you,

686
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.920
but I have so much fun.
Awesome, Okay, good. So

687
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.480
we've covered a few of them,
and they're I think directly related. They

688
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:13.119
have been directly related to LATINIX in
Hispanic cultures and folklore and stuff, but

689
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.039
in general just out of like every
movie maybe that you have covered that you've

690
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.119
seen, either classic or contemporary.
Do you have any favorites, like your

691
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.639
own personal favorites that you're like,
this is my go to, this is

692
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:29.559
my comfort, This is the one
I can watch on repeat. Well as

693
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:35.320
your Patreon subscribers can tell or can
tell, I have a bunch of Michael

694
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.480
Myers memorability in the background, all
those posters in the wall and all that,

695
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:43.000
all that Memorabiley. So that's all
Michael Meyers stuff. So Halloween was

696
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:50.400
my is my first and oldest love. I have tattoos. This whole arm

697
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.039
is just a sleeve too, well
not sleeve, but it's there's a bunch

698
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:58.239
of tattoos for Halloween. So Halloween, it was just has a special place

699
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.079
in my heart. My I have
like two memories. It's not my and

700
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.360
I'm sorry for people who've heard this
before. If any listeners came over here,

701
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.360
hopefully they did. But I have
two youngest memories. My first memory,

702
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.519
like we were poor, and so
my first memory is of being in

703
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.519
an apartment on the floor as an
or toddler whatever and there's being cockroaches around

704
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.239
like this. We were just we
were poor. My second oldest memory is

705
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.480
of a dream that I had of
So we lived in Chicago. We had

706
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:37.679
a three flat, so this three
apartments in the basement and the porch was

707
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:44.119
enclosed. And I have this memory
of me running up the stairs as a

708
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.199
I don't know, let's say,
five year old or whatever, and looking

709
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:52.039
behind me and Michael Myers chasing me, and it being like this endless kind

710
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.440
of you know, infinity set of
stairs or I can never get reached to

711
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:59.360
the top, and he was always
just right behind me. And that is

712
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.880
like the second oldest memory that I
have, and it just has just stuck

713
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.800
with me, this love that I
have for that movie, and so it

714
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:14.599
consumes they consumes me. I have, like I have a bunch of memorabilia

715
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.039
for it and stuff like that.
So that is my first love. I

716
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.400
don't rewatch a ton of movies.
I like to experience new movies. I

717
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:23.920
like to I'm a collector in all
things that collect, comic books, that

718
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:28.320
collect, movies, that collect so
so I want to collect experiences as well.

719
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.480
And for me, a movie is
an experience. So with having said,

720
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.199
I don't go back to a lot
of movies unless it's for the podcast,

721
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.880
right, But Halloween is one of
those, so I don't have a

722
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:45.000
lot of comfort movies except for Halloween. Halloween, and funny enough, Anthony

723
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.840
Jeromem's favorite movie is Not a Living
Dead the original, the original one.

724
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.480
That's one of my comfort movies as
well. And I just recently found out

725
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:58.480
because of Johnny Eileen, Johnny and
Eileen that it is that George Ramiro was

726
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:02.599
Latino like he as Cuban, which
I did not realize it. And just

727
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.599
like they said, we're gonna claim
it whatever I'm claiming, I'm claiming that,

728
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.159
you know, yeah so, but
but yeah, so. Halloween is

729
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.920
just every every Halloween I watch.
I watched it a couple times a year,

730
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:17.760
but on Halloween specifically. My wife
is can attest to this and she's

731
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.800
I love her for allowing me to
do it. We watch Halloween on Halloween

732
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:28.039
and I carve a pumpkin while I'm
while I'm watching Halloween. It's just something

733
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:32.320
that just makes me so happy to
be able to do that. And then

734
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:36.559
we put the candle and we put
it outside at night. It's it's one

735
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:38.320
of my favorite things that I do
all year round with And then she puts

736
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:44.519
on the mask and she chases you
around your dream. Yeah, that is

737
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.840
such a sweet like image in my
head. I mean, I don't know,

738
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.119
I love that. That is uh, that's yeah, I love that

739
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.920
so much. That's really nice.
Yeah. So I have one final question

740
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.960
for you. Where do you see
the future of horror movies and paranormal stories

741
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:07.119
only heading especially in terms of incorporating
diverse cultural perspectives. Yeah. So I

742
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.320
may be a skeptic in real life, but in movies, I love that

743
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:15.519
shit, right. I love to
see spooky ghosts on that sort of shit.

744
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.559
So with that being said, I
think moving forward, like we talked

745
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.599
about already, we're going to see
more. I want to see more and

746
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:32.199
more different voices. I want to
see people from like the African diaspora.

747
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.360
I want to see people from South
America. I want to see people from

748
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:43.280
the islands. My wife and I
for our tenth anniversary, we went to

749
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.840
Cuba, and while we were in
Cuba, I was like, on this

750
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:54.719
search for any movies I could find
like horror movies specifically right that I can

751
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.920
I can bring out of there.
And I didn't find a lot of like

752
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.519
horror movies, but I found I
found some movies that I was able to

753
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.599
bring back and some were not that
good, but some were really good,

754
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.079
and so I want to. I
know that they have a voice. There's

755
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:13.320
one one thing that came out of
Cuba at this point, it's like ten

756
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.400
to fifteen years ago already, Juana
the Dead. So it's coming off of

757
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.440
like the Shawn of the Dead or
Dawn and the Dead sort of thing,

758
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.320
and it hasn't aged wrote really well
because there is a character there is a

759
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.480
character in there that is really problematic
at this point. But you know,

760
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:34.760
coming from that Machismo Caribbean, Cuban
island that's kind of closed off to you

761
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.840
know, kind of what the rest
of the world has kind of advanced when

762
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.320
it comes to like gay and lesbian
characters, I can understand it, not

763
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:45.320
saying that it's good, I think, but but anyway, I want to

764
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.079
I want to see like stories like
that because they are the voices are there,

765
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.320
they're just not being amplified. And
that's what that's what I'm hoping for.

766
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:58.559
I want to see more people of
color in the movies in front of

767
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:00.519
and behind the camera as well.
Well. And not only that, I

768
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.320
want to see them in the studios. I want to see because that's where

769
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.920
it's coming from. Like we have
some allies in the studios who are like

770
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:15.639
allowing these these stories be told.
But it's like it's like they're like,

771
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:20.440
Okay, what I'm tired of it
is it being a black movie or it

772
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.519
being a LATINX movie. I want
it to just be a fucking movie.

773
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:28.440
Right. Just because there's a majority
black cast, just because there's a majority

774
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.000
a LATINX cast doesn't make it that
movie. When you when you watch a

775
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.280
regular movie, when you watch a
Marvel movie and the cast is ninety percent

776
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.679
white, is it a white movie? Now? It's just a fucking movie,

777
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:38.840
right, And then that's what I
want to That's what I want to

778
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:45.320
see going forward, is our voice
is being amplified. And also the greater

779
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:50.000
audience i e. White people going
to support those movies, right because we've

780
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:53.320
been supporting because we've been supporting those
movies downside for them to support those and

781
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.320
they're going to see that we have
like listen, we put we bring flavor

782
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:04.840
to everything then and so they're kind
of I hope that they're getting tired of

783
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.119
their unseasoned chicken and come to us. Yeah, So that's what I'm looking

784
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:14.360
for. Oh my goodness, what
a beautiful beautifully seasoned answer. Oh my

785
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.920
goodness, well, migotta, thank
you so much for being here. And

786
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.679
again, if you all have not
heard me on My Horror Professional, my

787
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.159
episode is up there, go listen
as well as the other episodes. It

788
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.199
is such a great show. And
again, thank you for bringing all of

789
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.159
this insight and all of this knowledge
today. Again, I feel like I

790
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:36.239
have like a laundry list of movies
I'm excited to go watch. It's a

791
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.559
chore that I'm going to take on. And yeah, any final parting words

792
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:45.360
anywhere people can find you online or
where to listen to you. Yeah,

793
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:50.840
So My Horror Professional a new episodes
drop on Friday. I do have a

794
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:54.280
Patreon, a Patreon dot com slash
My Horror Professional where I drop the zoom

795
00:58:54.400 --> 00:59:00.000
episodes every Wednesday, and then on
Sundays we have the Sunday school Sessions,

796
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.320
which is an extra show that I
do with all the guests to come on.

797
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.440
Aiden did that as well, and
that's Patreon exclusive. And then I

798
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.800
also, because I make comic books, I throw out the comics that I've

799
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.360
made. I'll throw them up there
in digital form for everybody. So there's

800
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:22.159
that on Instagram. I'm at Miguel
Myers at X. I don't remember my

801
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:27.159
my things, but my horror professional
you'll you'll be able to find me.

802
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.480
I don't do I don't do Twitter
too much anymore. Yeah, I'll put

803
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.360
the links in the in the description
box of this episode, so I do

804
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:37.559
not have my elevator pitch down.
We'll work on it, we'll write it

805
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.440
together. I appreciate it. Appreciate
that, and I just want to thank

806
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:42.519
you so much for having me on
it. This is a blast and a

807
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.639
dream come true. Absolutely well goo
friends, thank you so much. Please

808
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.519
bow with the altar, say goodbye
to Pather, Miguel, and again,

809
00:59:52.559 --> 01:00:13.599
thank you for coming and I will
talk to you later. Bye bye,

810
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Welcome back to old friends. Thank
you so much for listening to or watching

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today's episode. Once again, if
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dot com slash Sustal podcast, then
you had access to the video version of

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this episode. You got to see
me and Miguel in our little kind of

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zoom chat. If you will,
and once again, if you have the

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time today Thursday the seventh through Saturday
the ninth, please drop by and visit

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The Power of bipoc Pop Media Symposium
where I will be tabling and presenting at

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and presenting on Saturday, but I'll
be tabling all three days, so again

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drop by, say hi, And
of course, aside from Little Me,

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there are so many other amazing presenters
and workshops that are going to be happening,

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so make sure to check them out
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podcast on every social media platform for
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A fun little thing. Actually,
I just hit one thousand followers on TikTok.

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Finally, I know what took so
long. I'm thinking the same thing,

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but you know what, we did
it small little milestone. Very excited

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about it, and yes, I'm
excited to start doing some more lives on

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TikTok in the future. I have
some ideas. The gears are turning,

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and if you have ideas, please
send them in. I would always love

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to hear from you. With that
being said, huge thank you to this

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week's patrons. You are Liza,
Sadie, Rachel, Alejandra Luther, April,

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Mario, Eva d Victoria, Josette, Angela and Co Mandy, Jules,

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Asukena, rios Anna, Marlene,
Chata, Laney, Desiree, a Aliyah

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Hally and Cynthia. Thank you all
so much from the bottom of my heart.

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The easiest way to support the show
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your feet at night. Thanks for
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