SUSTO SWAP-A-THON: Somewhere In The Skies

0:24 Hey, a girl friends, It's me Adrian or Aiden. Either way, I am still your host, but you are not listening to SUSTO this week. Welcome to the twenty twenty five Sustal Swapathon. That is right, I feel like I primed you already for this. I gave you all the heads up in the month of December. I am taking time off from the production cycle of Sustal and I am bringing to you shows that I think that you will enjoy as much as I do. So I'm sorry you're probably gonna get sick of hearing this specific introduction for these next couple weeks throughout December, but I just wanted to make sure to mind you all about what is going on, so that when you hear this, you're not like, what the hell?

1:04 Where is Aiden? Did he ghost us? You get it kidding? I would never do that to you. However, I would like to introduce you to some more content and more creators that I really think that you would enjoy. If you do, please make sure that you go to these shows pages, that you follow them wherever they are available. And yeah, I will be. Back in twenty twenty six. I hope that you are having a wonderful holiday season. As I mentioned before the break started, I listen. I'm still online, so just because there are no new Sustal episodes, believe me, y'all know I'm chronically online, so you can find me on there. Feel free to send me a message, send me an email. I love hearing from you all, and continue to send in your letters from the beyond by visiting sustalpodcast dot com or my link tree so that we can have some fun stuff to talk about come twenty twenty six, which I can't believe that this year happened already. That's wild to me. Anyway, we're gonna go ahead and get into today's feature. I really hope that you enjoy it and I will see you all in the next year.

1:58 Bye. Hello, CISTO podcast listeners. My name is Ryan Sprague and I'm the host of the Summer in the s Guy's podcast, where every week we tackle the UFO subject from every angle, whether it's through case histories, interviews, call in shows where you tell your UFO stories, and so much more. We attempt to get to the heart of this mystery, one UFO.

2:41 Sighting at a time. So today I want to bring you a special episode of the Summer on This Guy's podcast where we cover the Renders from Forest UFO incident where over sixty military personnel witnessed a craft of unknown origin land in a forest in England back in nineteen eighty. It's by far one of my favorite episodes we've ever done, and I really hope you enjoy it. My special thanks to see Stow podcast for letting us drop this on their feed, and you can find a special episode of se Stowe Podcasts right on the Summer in the Sky's feed as well. Super honored, super excited for you guys to give our show a try. And if you like it, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, Spotify, Apple, you name it.

3:29 It's their YouTube as well. I hope you'll click subscribe, I hope you'll click follow, and I hope you'll join us as we continue to probe these mysteries somewhere in the skies. RAF Woodbridge in RAF Bentwater were known as the Twin Bases, separated by an area of woodland called Rendalshum Forest. The two installations in Suffolk, Southeast England, were perhaps the United States' most important military complexes during the Cold War. And they held a dark secret. Even today, it's not officially acknowledged that nuclear weapons were being stored at the basis, a complete violation of the US and UK's treaty obligations. But another secret was being held in that forest, and almost forty years later it remains one of the most famous UFO cases of all time. This is the story of the incident in Rendelshrom Forest.

4:50 While our government's official position is not to speculate on this subject, we can choose to let our minds explore other possibilities. The usual reminded. For if we consider the astroscientists agree on one point that the possibility of life elsewhere is not only quite probable in some field, that is there without a doubt. Let us suppose then, that these objects are wheeled space vehicles extraterrestrial origin. And not an illusion of the mind.

5:32 I'm Ryan, spread and you are now somewhere in the skies. It was a rather quiet and cold night in nineteen eighty. It's probably not much fun to be on security duty on Christmas night, thousands of miles from home in a cold British military base in England. Twenty year old American patrol sergeant John Burrows had the short straw that night guarding RF Woodbridge's lonely East gate, which edged into the dark woods of the neighboring Rendosham Forest. As the twenty fifth turned into the twenty sixth, Burrows looked out into the darkness and saw something strange. Colored lights appeared to be hovering and dancing over the trees. Was this some sort of Christmas display? Burrows had an uneasy feeling that it was something unusual and drove back to the gatehouse to inform the security controller. Security policeman Jim Penison joined Burrows at the gate to observe the lights. In his two years of working at the base, the twenty six year old Peniston had never seen lights in the Rendosham Woods before, but had witness said small aircraft crashes during his career and felt that this might explain what the

7:05 men were seeing. Relating this possibility to the security tower, at around three am, Penistin, Burrows, and fellow airman Ed Cabanseg were given permission to venture out into the forest to investigate. I then ordered Derman cabanzac a one Ce Burrows to respond with new off site. When we arrived to the spected crash site. They quickly became apparent that we were not dealing with a plane crash, or, for that matter, anything else we've ever responded to. There was a bright light emanating from an object on the forest floor. As we approached it on foot, a silhouette triangle craft about nine feet long six and a half feet high came into view. The craft was fully intact and sitting in a small clearing just inside the woods. As the three of us got closer to the craft, we started experiencing radio difficulties. I then asked airman Combansac to relate the radio transmissions back to our control center. Burls and I proceeded towards the craft.

8:09 The air around them, according to Peniston, seemed to be filled with electricity. It was surging through them as they approached the object. When we came up on the trangler shaped craft, there were blue and yellow lights swirling around the exterior as though they were part of the surface. Nothing in my training prepared me for what I was witnessing. After ten minutes, without any apparent aggression, I determined the craft was non hostile to my team and to the base. Following the security protocols. We completed a thorough on site investigation. This included a full physical examination of the craft, which included photographs and my notebook entries I had at the time, and relays with the radio through aramic Banzac to our control center. On one side of the craft, there were symbols that measured three inches high and there approximate about two and a half feet long. The feeling I had during the encounter was like no type of aircraft that I've ever seen before. It was in Jane's book of Known Aircraft or anything I've seen since.

9:20 Peniston scrupled furiously in his notebook, drawing as best he could the shape of the object, but found it increasingly difficult to write, as if some strange force was weighing him down. The light from the craft again to intensify Burls and I then took a defensive position away from the craft as it lifted off the ground without any noise or air disturbance. It maneuvered through the trees and shut off at an unbelievable rate of speed. It was gone in a blink of an eye. In my law book, I wrote speed Impossible. That night over eighty Air Force personnel all trained observers assigned to the eighty first Curity Police Squadron witness to take off.

10:08 What on earth had the men witnessed? Whatever it was, All three were reluctant to go back to their commanding officers and say that they'd seen a UFO. Rumors had long circulated around the Twin basis of lights in the sky, but most airmen preferred to keep such reports to themselves for fear of ridicule. On returning to the base, the men relaid what Peniston described as a sanitized account of the encounter to their commanding officer, Lieutenant Fred Beeren, and were informed that the nearby radar base had also reported an unusual blip on the radar earlier the previous night. Was this the object the men had seen? Like so much of the Rendership incident, we have official documents that confirm that this incident did indeed occurs. A Britain report dated January two, nineteen eighty one, confirms Burroughs and Peniston's sighting.

11:07 Fred Buren affirms that the men are reliable and mature individuals and appear convinced that Peniston had indeed experienced something out of the realm. Of explanation for him at the time. By now, the strange lights over Randelsham had also been reported to the local police. Returning the next morning, the two officers from the Suffolk Constabulary, Burroughs and Peniston, tried to find the location of their mysterious nocturnal encounter. Happening upon what they believed was the same clearing, the men saw three indentations in the ground, often seized by skeptics. The subsequent police report states that these indentations were actually nothing more than rabbit burrows. Peniston, however, is adamant that they were not stating that the ground was frozen and it was impossible for that to have happened. Peniston believes the officers were reluctant to state what the marks really were, as like him, they were worried that they'd be ridiculed.

12:10 Supportive of Peniston's integration was the fact that the three indentations formed an exact equilateral triangle when measured out. Burrows and Peniston's encounter in the woods might well have been dismissed as a mistake or even just Christmas hijinks if it wasn't for the events of the following two nights. Although the rendals from Forrest incident is usually reported as two nights of UFO activity, the twenty fifth through twenty sixth and the twenty seventh through twenty eighth, there was actually a lesser reported sighting the following night, twenty hours after the Burrows and Peniston sighting. Eighteen year old basic airman Laurie Riefeldt recalls her own series of events that night.

12:55 So I was on control at the time, and I had a colleague with me, airman his airman Dufffield. We were both airman first class, which is the E three at the time, and and we had just checked the lock on the gate and we were just filling out our check sheet and making sure everything and we're just sitting there and it was about two three o'clock in the morning, and it was just really it was a it was a clear night, wasn't raining out, and we were just kind of, you know, bored figuring out we got about four or five more hours left, and we're just sitting there talking and all of a sudden we see this light approaching that it was coming from the area the North Sea, so it's coming west to east, and at first it looked like it looked like we thought it was just regular aircraft coming in and and and we looked over at the at the runway, waiting good lights to go on, figuring all of the aircraft coming in, and and then as it got closer and closer, and now it's about maybe two hundred it wasn't really that far. It was just this it was a bit light and just stopped. And this guy and I were looking.

14:03 We noticed that the that the runway lights aren't on. We see this light and then and then all of a sudden, it just stops in mid air. And then all of a sudden, it moves up down, left right, and then it breaks into like three pieces and speeds across the runway. And now we're stunned. We're like, what the we you know, what was that? So we immediately got on I got on the radio because we you know, we were thinking, what is that? And we get on the radio and and I mean we were kind of excited about you know, police control, this is police sport, be advised. But we couldn't see the aircraft itself, the speed, the rate of speed that it was moving when it when it when it went across I mean, it was moving in like a regular aircraft. Then when it stopped, and then when it did its movement, and then when it split into three, and then when it went sped across the runway going it was going west, you know, it was just going out of phenomenal speed. And the only other thing that really it caught our attention was that it didn't make any noise. There was no sound to it at all, and we were like, you know this, we just you know, we just didn't know what it was.

15:08 And as for the size it, you know, from the distance we were, I guess I'd say it was probably about the size of a car or small truck or something. It was probably about maybe two football length football field lengths away. News of the UFO sightings had by now reached the base. As Deputy Commander Colonel Charles Halt Well attending a Christmas awards party at the base on the night after twenty seventh, Lieutenant Bruce England rushed into the room. Untild Colonel Charles halt We've got to talk. It's back. Halt then, a forty one year old veteran of Vietnam and Korea, had no patience for tales of UFOs, and was irritated that his men were getting distracted from their duties with such nonsense.

15:58 Determined to find the source of the lights once in for all, Halt led a search party into Rendoshum Forest to look for answers. I took two senior patrolmen with me and disasked preparedness expert and the reporting on duty police officer. But the site we find three one and a half inch indentations, triangular and pattern. We discovered mild radiation and evidence of broken branches on the trees. We suddenly observed a very bright red orange object. It was oval and with a black center. It reminded me of an eye, and it appeared to be winking or blinking. It maneuvered horizontally through the trees with an occasional vertical movement. When approached, it receded and silently broke into five white objects. We moved out of the forest and onto a pasture and observed several objects in the sky. Multiple objects to the north, They changed shape from elliptical to rhyme. Several other objects were seen to the south. One approached at a very high speed and sent down a strange beam right at our feet. It was different than an ordinary light, and it didn't radiate. It was more like a laser beam.

17:09 Another object sent down beams a light into the weapons storage area. The whole time, we had difficulty communicating with the base, as all three radio frequencies that we were using kept breaking up. This activity continued for about an hour during this entire event, I was fortunate to have with me at my small pocket recorder. It's a little a near recorder that I carried around the base. Hues need to take notes because I didn't like to write much, so I recorded all the significant events that happened that night. Unfortunately, the tape recorder is no longer functional, but I do have a tape and a good copy of it. I have no idea what we saw that night, but I do know with great certainty it was under intelligent control. More on the Halt audio tape in just a little bit. From this point on, many of those present during this search believe a vast cover up had begun, even under the nose of a senior officer like Colonel Charles Salt.

18:00 While Halt himself tried to find out from his men what had happened, other agencies swooped in to interrogate the men about the events of the previous three nights. Jim Peniston recalls being repeatedly grilled about the incidents by the Air Force's Office of Intelligence, even being administered truth drug sodium pentanol. On one occasion. Sergeant Adrian Bestenza claims he was interrogated for hours in an underground part of the base by unnamed agents, possibly from the CIA at Cabansac, who had accompanied Burroughs and Peniston on the first night of activity, says he was ordered to sign a false statement that concealed what he really saw. Wing Commander Charles Gabriel, in charge of all USAF forces in Europe, made an unprecedented impromptu visit to the bases, seizing much of Halt's evidence. Unbelievably, Halt was then told the United States had no official interest in this incident. Unsure of just exactly what to do, and with jurisdiction over the matter officially shared between the US and UK, Halt was told to hand the matter over to the British Ministry of Defense. Halt's January thirteenth, nineteen eighty one memo, entitled Unexplained Lights, summarizing the events of the weekend was sent to the British government, but received a similar lack of interest. For all those involved,

19:30 this seemed to mark the end of the matter, and life on the base seemingly went back to normal. Outside of a bit of gossip among thefologists, events of that amazing weekend would probably have faded into obscurity. That was until a sensational tap light scoop nearly three years later blew the whole thing wide open. UFO lands in Suffolk in That's official. This was the headline in the UK's News of the World. The paper had managed to obtain Halt's top secret memo. Soon news outlets begin to pick up on the story, CNN being one of the first networks to report.

20:11 CNN began asking the Air Force for information about the vent Water's UFO incident six months ago. Throughout the Air Force has been slow to respond, and when it did reply, the answer was usually quote unknown end quote, or in some cases apparently misleading. For example, when CNN asked are there any photographs, tape recordings, videotapes, drawings, or descriptions of any kind in Air Force files, the official US Air Force reply was quote there was no audio visual documentation done. End quote. If it is a cover up, then the American public may never know what those airmen saw at Bendwaters in nineteen eighty if they were merely Keystone cops who were hallucinating, as one critic suggests from one of the national security implications of those same airmen guarding a strategically important airbase where nuclear weapons are reportedly stored, if they weren't hallucinating, and one of the implications of what they actually did see. When CNN recently asked the Air Force about the possible existence of movie film of the bent Water's UFO, the official Air Force response was the United States Air Force stopped investigating UFOs in nineteen sixty nine.

21:15 Inconsistencies with witnesses is something that needs to be addressed. Larry Warren, a former American security officer, was the first person to come forward about what happened in the forests. Warren had originally been anonymously leaking stories about Rendoshum to the UFO community for years, and his remarkable account of what he saw would prove to be very divisive amongst the other witnesses. According to the then nineteen year old Warren, it wasn't just lights or a craft that was seen, but actual beings as well. Warren would also make some startling claims about how men in black style agents had interrogated him and messed with his mind, simply planting false or distorted memories. Rendoshum Forest was starting to move from a well documented encounter with a mysterious light to a full on craft and now full scale science fiction. The integrity of Larry Warren's testimony is still up for debate until today, but it does need to be addressed in the overall picture of the rendoschrom Forest incident. Despite inconsistencies and controversy, this UFO incident had something most cases did not, the words of a senior American Air Force colonel in an official memo. The credibility of the document even led to questions being asked of the then Conservative government in the UK Parliament. Over the next few decades, competing claims

22:49 would emerge about what happened over Christmas nineteen eighty at the Twin basis. More witnesses would emerge, often with incredible claims. Skeptics would pounds on inconsistencies and try to find rational explanations for what happened. Some have even suggested that the whole thing was a hoax, or that the airmen had had a bit too much Christmas cheer, or perhaps it was simply a mistake the nearby Orfordness lighthouse bouncing its powerful illumination amongst the trees. Regardless of the attempts to debunk Rendoshow, the original witnesses, the documents, and the physical evidence all attest to something very genuine occurring. The most cited piece of evidence in the Rendersrom Forest case, the Halt Memo, provides a rare direct piece of contemporary documentary UFO evidence, signed by a senior member of the US military.

23:51 Some critics have questioned the dating of this memmo January thirteenth, supposedly more than a week and a half after the incident occurred, but this appears to be explained by the general confusion over the jurisdiction of the incident. As such, Colonel Holt was told by his own commanders to hand the matter over to the British with the basis British Liaison Donald Morland don leave Halt elected to wait to act until he had discussed it with Morland, with no further activity and no evidence of any threat, Halt no longer regarded the incident as especially urgent. The Halt Memo was released to the public in nineteen eighty three after the American Citizens Against the UFO Secrecy Organization successfully launched a freedom of information backed request to release the document.

24:42 Both the USAF and the Ministry of Defense have consistently stated the activity detailed in the Halt Memo is of no defense interests, but former UK Defense chief and Chairman of the NATO Military Committee, Lord Hill Norton thinks differently. Only two conceivable explanations for what happened. Either a uphoe landed there causing the damage and collateral business, or the deputy commander of a United States nuclear armed air base in Britain and several hundred of his men were hallucinating. Now I put it to you, I put it to anybody with an atom of common sense, either of those explanations, and they are the only two possible explanations must be of defense interest.

25:35 In the early nineteen nineties, while head of the mod's UFO Desk, researcher Nick Pope conducted a cold case review into the Rendosham incident. According to Pope, the reality was that the MOD were unable to find any credible explanation for the incident and classified it as unexplained. Pope thinks the original investigation was hobbled by confusion over jurisdiction, the wrong day quoted in Halt's memo, delays, and some destruction of evidence. Suspiciously, Charles A. Gabriel, the commander in chief of the USAF in Europe, made an unscheduled trip to Bentwater shortly after the incident. Gabriel was briefed about the incident and removed a large amount of evidence, much of which was never seen again. Nick Pope reveals that Gabriel's intervention caused disconnection at the MOD. It directly contradicts the official USAF line that they had no interest in the incident and that it should be handed over to the British.

26:43 In fact, the. MOD was never made aware of Gabriel's visit, what evidence he took, and the results of any subsequent investigation. Skeptics have long struggled to dismiss the Halt memo. Colonel Halt's credibility is difficult question, as he had a distinguished forty two year military career and retired in nineteen ninety one with the highest peacetime award given by the Secretary of Defense. Halt never spoke publicly about the incident until he retired. He is therefore the most reputable senior military figure for which we have direct contemporary documentary evidence discussing an encounter in a UFO case. Halt's memo rules out the idea that the incident may have been some kind of joke fueled by Yule type spirit. A deputy commander of a nuclear facility like Halt would clearly never escalate such a hoax to the British government. While his memo cannot easily be dismissed, the deputy commander is also the source of arguably an even more convincing piece of evidence in the form of an eighteen month minute audio tape of a real live UFO encounter. Halt's eighteen minute tape of the party's seven hour expedition in the woods is unique amongst all UFO cases, and that it contains Halt and several

28:15 other military personnel's live reactions to UFO phenomena occurring around them. The officers featured on the tape are Halt, Sergeant Monroe, Neville's Sergeant Robert Ball, Sergeant Adrian Pastinta, and Lieutenant Bruce England. The men could be heard inspecting the original landing site Burrows and Peniston found two nights earlier, and as they survey the area, things start to get interesting. Yeah, one of these trees that in the blacks, but we assume as the landing site all ab an abrasion facing in the same direction towards the seventh circle. Say it back down here, pickure that time of the collection.

29:02 Let me see that. Well, I wanna see the funny that's that's you're wording about the oprasion and all I never see it's uh, they never see a point? Is the damnage? React that I have a bottle to put that in. Yeah, if you gotta say it a bottle his head or the tell itself. Uh yeah, here a Cititi size drap tall I don't like, about four feet off the ground, about a hundred ten degrees getting lean of about four clicks. Yes, Uh, I mean it. Uh, it's the that's there. I think it's something on in the ground. I think it's something that's something valuable. Tree right on plays about the first light, but we've seen or about a hundred and fifty two hundred yards from a fight. Everything else is just. Breactly calm, there's no doubt about it.

29:45 There's some type of strange flash and red light. It has the h I saw y'all attending it too weird it it appears that you make a move little. Bit this way. Yes, it's light and has that they'll it's. Coming his way. It's definitely coming his way a bus. This is weird. Hey, guys, Ryan spread here from somewhere in the Skies. The podcast has always been and always will be completely free for you to listen to, but creating it every week takes a lot of time, research and resources, and to be honest, it's just never been free for me to create. That's why we've built a few simple ways for you to help support the show and keep it going strong. You can join us over on Patreon or through Apple Premium. Both offer the same awesome perks, add free episodes, early access to new content, exclusive bonus shows, and even priority to ask our guests your listener questions.

30:48 It's a quick and easy way to support what we do for just a few bucks a month, and right now you can even try Patreon for free for a week to see if it's right for you. To learn more and a joy, head over to patreon dot com slash somewhere skies. That's patreon dot com slash somewhere skies, or hit that subscribe button right at the top of your Apple podcast feed. Thank you so much for listening, for supporting, and as always, keep looking up. As mentioned before, one popular suggestion from skeptics to debunk what is captured on this tape is that the men were observing light from the nearby Orfordness Lighthouse. Vince Thurkettle, the local forester who's familiar with this site, explained his theories on both the lights that the officers had witnessed and the physical trace marks believed to have been left behind from the craft.

31:50 Twenty odd years of playing in woods taught me what to see, and this site was ordinary. It was just ordinary and natural. Nothing strung unusual had happened there. Sure enough, the landing site had some sticks marking three of these which were roughly in a triangle, but as a forester to me, there were nothing more than rabbit scrapes. They certainly weren't the feet marks of some craft having landed. Every single shred of physical evidence I'd seen could be explained away naturally. Just off to the side is where the allage landing happened, So the American patrol would have come through here somewhere and out to the edge of the forest, which is out on our right, from where you look out over the fields, over the few houses, and out towards the lighthouse. I've been jogging down this track at night, and the first time I saw the lighthouse, I really thought it was poachers with a lamp in the forest. So I knew that to people who weren't ready for it, the lighthouse really appeared to be a pulsing light within the forest. That I knew that from earlier.

32:56 And I think the fact that the lighthouse can only be seen from very certain parts of the forest, and one of them is exactly where the or the alleged landing happened. While Thurkettle's theory should obviously be considered, there are some serious issues with his theories. The most obvious is that the lighthouse pre dates the then thirty eight year old military bases. Yet none of the thousands of men and women who had served at the base during the time had ever mistaken the lighthouse for a UFO before. Indeed, since these were US Air Force bases with military aircraft coming in and out multiple times a day, it seems somewhat unlikely that trained airmen would make such an obvious mistake. Furthermore, the beam from the orpheredness is deliberately dimmed when shining inland by a blocking plate fitted around the lens. A lighthouse's beam also fails to match the actual nature of the observations made. Colonel Charlesholt himself also dismissed the lighthouse theory, stating that quote A lighthouse doesn't move through the forests.

34:04 A lighthouse doesn't go up and down. It doesn't explode, doesn't change shape, size, doesn't send down beams of light from the sky end quote. Some of the military witnesses, such as Jim Pettison and Fred Buren, had already stated they had heard over the radios that radar stations had trapped an uncorrelated target or a bogie on the radar. In her book You Can't Tell the People, author Georgina Bruney fond former radar operators who claimed that a strange object had been tracked in Rendoshum on the night of the first sightings. More recently, two USAF air traffic controllers at bent Waters have come forward with similar accounts. In an interview with author and UFO researcher Robert Hastings, James H.

34:55 Carey and Ivan R. Barker gave their own testimony for the very first time, having seen the objects on radar and then with their own eyes. I was just sitting there and I happened to see a dot come on the scope and it just went like one dot at beginning to another dot, another dot, and it was gone. So the scope is one hundred and twenty miles across. It was just phenomenal me to see it go that fast all of a sudden hear it come back across again. It went one, two, and then it made the immediate right hand turn and came right towards the base. You know, I just said, that can't be one of ours. No jet at that speed can make an immedia right hand turn. Just absolutely phenomenal.

35:37 It's not like any radar target I've ever seen. When they sweep would hit the target, you would have the entire back of it would be like a solid line traveling in the extremely high rated speed. It passed over the control tower and then it stopped. I've never seen anything in my life like maneuverability that happened with this object. Was an orangeish color. Sort of popped into my mind at the time that somebody's flying a basketball out here. There were lights around the center of it, but it wasn't like running lights or navigational lights.

36:18 It was more like portholes. And then you were seeing the light from the inside coming out. It wasn't, you know, flashing lights or anything. But it over momentarily reversed its horse and went back out at a high ratus. B The MOTS released UFO files do demonstrate that they sought to corroborate the radar readings, but were hampered by the fact that records had been destroyed and some of the cameras used to record the radar ratings were conveniently not working during the days in question. Well, there are countless witnesses with highly credible backgrounds that witnessed the events in Rendo from forest. They're simply will always be those who want to attribute prosaic answers to what happened. And besides the lighthouse theories, there are a few other explanations that should at least be brought up. It's notable that the period of the twenty fifth and twenty sixth of December coincided with a confluence of unusual atmospheric phenomena. Shortly before the first cluster of sightings at Rendelschem, a Russian cosmo's seven forty nine satellite burnt up over western Europe and was widely reported as a UFO by multiple civilians.

37:36 Another rare event, the burning up of a meteor in the atmosphere, occurred in the early hours of the twenty sixth of December. This meteor produced an unusually bright fireball and was visible throughout southeast England. There are pros and cons to these alternative possibilities. It's certainly a striking coincidence that the period of the observed UFIL activity corresponded in time and location with at least three viable sources of false positives meteor satellites and of course the lighthouse. These clearly cannot be overlooked and must surely account for at least some of the lights people claimed to have seen during that Christmas weekend. If these mistaken sightings could be eliminated from the list of observed UFOs at Rendoshum, then the incident might start to look a little less impressive. However, the rocket and the meteor are both short lived events and don't adequately explain the nature of most of the observations, nor the fact that they were spread out over several hours over three separate nights. Likewise, the lighthouse cannot account for the majority of the sightings as it simply was not visible in the locations. So besides these alternative explanations, I want to focus again on two of the primary witnesses meant earlier who seemed to be keeping this case alive with developing stories. Those witnesses are Jim Peniston and

39:08 John Burrows. Jim Peniston now says he spent forty five minutes examining the craft he observed in the first night, noting symbols on the body of the craft. He also says he touched the skin of the craft and received a telepathic message in binary code. Oh, it's absolutely was telepathic. It wasn't like I could see it in front of me like visually it was. It was like it was a pictorial that was running a movie in my in my brain, you know it was it wasn't. It was a mind's eye kind of thing. Yeah, it wasn't. I couldn't physically actually see something all and uh it was flashings of zeros and ones. And later we find out some type of binary code, which I, uh, be honest with you, I have trouble with algebra or I'm not a math person by no means on computer.

40:01 And in nineteen eighty I don't think we even had computers that we used, so it was foreign. I did record the the glyphs at the scene, but when I went home in the following day, I know I can't get these images. I mean, they're just like, they're ones and zero zero, They're all in my head. So I felt compelled through round now. So I grabbed my notebook, flipped it open, and then I did the most crazy thing. I thought, no world, I wrote these ones in Cerio's all the way down. It's like twelve fourteen pages of them. And anyway, at a certain point when I got done, I had no more imaging. Now I'm not at the craft, I'm at home. I go back to Ipswich and this is what this is happening. And then once I'd done it, though the imaging was gone, so I thought, great, now can I tell somebody that that I went? It was imaging in my living room, went home in Ipswich, and I had to rhyme down. I'm okay now I did not tell anybody that happened.

41:03 Since coming forward with these theories, Jim Peniston had this binary code deciphered and it apparently picked up the message quote exploration of humanity continuous for planetary advancement end quote. There are also some coordinate points in the binary code to high Brazil, the location of a legendary advanced and highly moral ethical Earth civilization, now the location of a submerged island west of Ireland. This and several other coordinates were found as well. This will be explored in an upcoming book by Jim Peniston called The Rendoschump Enigma. Jim Pedison's claims are intriguing, but many do question its veracity.

41:50 In fact, there is no mention of this binary code in his original witness statements, nor is there anything remotely resembling this version of events in his radio communications with his commanders at the base. John Burrows also does not remember Peniston making any notes during the entire period they observed the object, but there are missing gaps in time between the two witnesses when the event occurred. So I guess for now we'll just have to take Jim's word for it. The next string of events is much more grounded in official documentation and just pure fact. It involves John Burrows, the officer who accompanied Peniston that night, but it also involves a legal battle, the help of a sixth term American Senator, and perhaps an entirely new outlook on the render t from Forrest Instinct and what it may have been. But let's get back to John for just a moment, because he was one of the officers that got closest to the craft, and as the years went on, he became more and more sick from what he believed was due to the event that night in the forest. In twenty eleven, John Burrows begins to offer during periodic life threatening atrio fibrillation, also known as aphib a quivering or irregular heartbeat that can lead to blood cloths, stroke, heart failure, and other heart related complications. He filed for Veterans Administration medical benefits, but was denied when the VA staff said there was no record of his serving at

43:23 RIF bent Waters and Woodbridge. John sought legal help in Jackson, Mississippi, and hired attorney Pat Frescogna. John's VIA case then went to the office of Arizona's U S Senator John McCain. Eventually, the VA admitted knowledge of John's service at RAF bent Waters, but found those medical records were classified. By twenty thirteen, needing open heart surgery to repair seriously damaged valves, John was angry and frustrated at not being able to get VIA medical disability coverage, which it was at this point when he learned of a former top secret UK restricted project called Project condemn It had been quietly declassified in two thousand and six, and it contained information that directly linked exposure to radiation to possible unexplained lights in the sky. Here, former UFO Desk official Nick Pope describes Project Condegn for US and its relevancy to this case.

44:29 Project Condeyne was an intelligent study into the UFO phenomenon carried out by the Defense Intelligence staff in the Ministry of Defense. Project Condyne was an attempt to do a proper intelligence assessment of the UFO phenomenon. The Condoine Report, the final report is arguably one of the most important UFO documents of all time, and it ran to over four hundred and sixty eight pages. I think at the time it's classification was secret UK highs. Only a proper intelligence assessment attempted to draw together all the data that we had and really answer the more important strategic question, what is all this you know? Never mind the case by case analysis. Put it all together.

45:29 What have we got? What are we dealing with? Bear in mind this was a British intelligence study, highly classified at the time it was written. It was never conceived that it was going to be released, and essentially it says, yeah, the witnesses that encountered the UFO in Rahndlesham Forest were probably irradiated by it. Once John and Jim's attorney put that document to the VA and said, hey, wait a minute, you've denied the US government has denied that this ever took place. You might want to read this British intelligence assessment.

46:09 Finally, under pressure from Senator John McCain's office, the VA arranged John's urgent open heart surgery. From mid December twenty thirteen, he began to recover to more normal health, but without VA medical benefits or his RAF Bentwaters medical records, and he didn't believe that to be right, that officers were not being treated for what presumably happened during this and several other close encounters with the UFOs and their physical effects on officers here, John Burrows states, such at the citizens hearing on disclosure to former Senators in twenty thirteen at the National Press Club. The first night, there were three of us one out there.

46:51 The second night you had the shift commander and the on duty flight chief. On the third night, Connel Halt took a team out there, and there was also other personnel in the woods, and different people saw different things. So that's one of the reasons why we would come forward, besides our health issues, is I feel it's necessary that anyone that was even out in that area should have the opportunity to be checked out medically and be told what they were exposed to, especially something that's over thirty years old. What the heck was going on out there that would draw this much attention from the agencies involved to this day, what would still be classified and if it is, what did we have or what we were dealing with that would still remain silent today. Almost every weapon we've ever developed back in that time frame has been exposed that we're aware of, and yet today this is still classified and we can't even receive medical treatment for it.

47:47 By January twenty thirty, twenty fourteen, John Begon filing freedom of information requests with the mod and by the spring and fall of twenty fourteen, the UK Ministry of the Events finally admitted it withheld at least eighteen classified UFO files. Upon this happened, John Burrows finally got the news he wanted all along. The United States Government has for the first time ever acknowledged by the fact of the law suspected reality of the UFO phenomenon. John Burrow's encountered a craft of unknown origin in England's Rendolsom Forest in December nineteen eighty and suffered injury there, fall for which the Veterans Administration is now recognized by brand EM'SALM full medical disavelopment.

48:40 Since John Burrows and Jim Penison have come forward, many other witnesses have followed. Seat. In twenty sixteen, Steve Loungero, who served as a police sergeant for the USAF stated that he was guarding the weapons storage area during the event in the highly sophisticated A line systems had been triggered by something over the base. He would describe very similar accounts as Charles Holt, presumably witnessing the same craft at the same time at completely different vantage points. It is no easy task to cover this entire event, the detailed testimony of those involved, and then trying to come out on the other side with answers.

49:27 Despite controversy, debates, half truths, lies and documented proof, the hard evidence from the time remains unengaged. Whatever stories are told and whatever information continues to develop, Something very real happened in the woods at Randoshum Forests that, as the MO defiles themselves now conclude, remains unexplained. This episode was co written and directly inspired by the Unredacted dot com Audio clips were provided by countless YouTube channels under the Fair Use Agreement. Selected audio provided by Jeremy Peasley, the National Archives, the Disclosure Project, the Citizens Hearing, Exopolitics Germany, the BBC and CNN special assignments. This episode was produced by me Ryan Sprague, with special thanks to Peter Robbins, Nick Pope Jim Peniston, John Burrows, and the many men and women who served under the US Air Force before, during, and after the Rendellscharm incident. Remember, keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching. Somewhere in the Scots.

51:26 Somewhere in the Skies is part of the Somewhere podcast Universe. Please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. To learn more about all of our shows, visit the SPU dot com.