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to jump on and let you know that this week's
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much to today Swap Monster for agreeing to do this.
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I hope that you enjoy this episode, this treat, and
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All right, Hello, my name is Stephanie, and if you
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like the paranormal and strange and pulp culture, you come
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to the right place. So today we'll be talking about
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a very interesting topic that is actually very old. Because
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I'm going to go down the rabbit hole with this,
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but it's been definitely, you know, talked about in media
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and movies, and even celebrities are claiming to have had
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sex with ghosts. But anyway, so we'll be obviously touching
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base on celebrity claiming to have sex with ghosts. We'll
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be touching base on references to the sex with entities
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in ould folklore origins like Sucubis and incubus. I will
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also bring up non celebrities too, and the virality of
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people who have gone viral talking about these topics. So yeah,
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let's jump right into this, you guys. By the way,
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I have tried to make content on this on other
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social media platforms, and for whatever reason, it doesn't do
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very well. So if this episode is just a flop,
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I'll know that you can are just not interested in
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the sex with the undead, the doing the deed with
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the undead, I'll know. I'll get the hint geez, even
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though I find it fascinating, and I need to remind
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myself just because I find something fascinating doesn't mean other
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people find it fascinating. But anyway, let's get into it,
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all right. The origins. Okay, so stories of the succubists
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and incubus. You know, people definitely point out that this
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is one and the same. Basically, they terrorize people in
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the middle of the night, and this has existed long
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as far back as medieval and biblical times, even Mesopotamia
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twenty four hundred BC. These creatures are thought to be
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demon who could seduce men and women in their dreams,
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though the names would change in medieval times to succubus.
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And by the way, the definition, you guys, very well,
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how do I put it? Vanilla? So succubis means to
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lie beneath in Latin and incubus is to lie on top.
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You guys, think about this for a second, very very vanilla. Okay, So,
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without moving on, these demon like creatures would would come
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out at night and sexually attack men and women. The
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succubists would do this to men and get the sperm
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and then impregnate the woman to create a companion and
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spread their kind to humans. This also notes that they
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would drain energy, blood from its victims and so on.
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There is a clip here, so I kind of quoted
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this one segment from this website, which I'll add in
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the notes. And if I forgot to do that I'll
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probably put it on my Instagram one or the other,
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so you know, keep an eye out for that. But
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they referenced Ghostly Encounters TV show, which I find super fascinating.
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This woman talks about her experiences with it. But now
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segueing aside from that, I know, while these things are
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demonized and seen as bad, are these encounters all that bad?
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I mean, think about it. Medieval times is a time
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where people do not want to hear about your sexual
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liberation or expression. I mean, we needed like a Madonna
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in that age. I don't know if we had with
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Demanana back there or back then. I have to look
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into that anyway, like a Madonna or like a share
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or like a Britney Spears, you know what I mean.
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Like I don't think those uh we're popping off and
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popular back then? Or or am I am I wrong
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about that? I don't know, Okay, So part of me
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feels like this could be a controlling factor of the
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medieval times, like I was saying, impose on the media
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villainizing these spirits. I've been on witch Talk and I've
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heard several interesting conversations on demons and how demons are
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not evil in the context that you would think. I
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think that if you are basically associating yourself with Abrahamic
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relige jigons, then yes, demons are awful and bad. Now
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I'm not saying you should believe one or the other.
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I'm just talking about what i've heard and I'm trying
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to be open with those resources. Okay, So I'm just
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trying to play devil's advocate in a sense of like,
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are these encounters bad in terms of like the times
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where people did not want to express themselves in that way,
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or are they bad because of religious times? But then
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also if you have different religious beliefs or spiritual beliefs,
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demons are not bad. They're just chaotic earth energy, as
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some would say. But anyway, that's for you to find
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out and put together. Like I was saying, So aside
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from a history, a long history of sexual endeavors and
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dreaming of these things, some people believe that this is
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just a what you would call a fetish or you
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would call a hallucination. So there is a woman who
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her name is Amanda large Teague, who met a ghost
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of a three hundred year old Haitian pirate who claims
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was the inspiration of Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the
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Caribbean movies. Now let's pause here because I feel like
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Johnny Depp in the Pirates of the Caribbean era. Oh
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my god, Chef's kiss. He is so good looking. Oh
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my god. I remember when I was in middle school,
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I had a T shirt of Johnny Depp as a
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Jack Sparrow and I was like so madly in love
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with him. But in reality, I grew up and I realized, like,
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that is not that is not partnership qualities. That's just
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superficial fantasy lawland. And I'm so glad twelve year old
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Stephanie got over that phase. So anyway, now I'm going
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to read off the Washington Post on this one. Okay, So,
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two weeks after she married, Teak said she encountered serious
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health problems and became convinced her husband was causing her ailments.
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Teek said she asked Jack to leave, but he told
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her he would kill her if she tried to escape him.
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She cut ties with Jack anyway, and in December went
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through a soul extraction similar to an exorcism, and it
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was performed by self described shaman. Eventually, Teak said Jack
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left and her health dramatically improved. Now this sounds to
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me like a form of an incubus, right, like, based
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on what we just covered, Because before I even thought
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about an incubus or a succubist, yeah, I would definitely
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think this is just you know, she had a fatish
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for spirits. She you know, was having sex with ghosts
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whatever whatever. Right, But now that I'm like learning about
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this incubus and succubist thing, I'm like, oh, is this
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like a modern day tale of incubus and succubis? I mean,
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am I saying this is reality? Am I saying this
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is fact? Of course not. I'm just saying that this
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sounds very much like a very old folklore and uh
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demon that people have reference for thousands of years. How
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is that? That's kind of weird?
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Right? I don't know?
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Okay, So anyway, There's also another woman who also was
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posted on a lot of news outlets timenownews dot com.
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I'll read it from here. It says a woman in
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the United Kingdom has claimed to have got engaged to
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a ghost. Amethyst Realm shocked everyone when she said she
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had sex with at least twenty ghost. Realm had revealed
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last December on a British television show that she had
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slept with a ghost without the knowledge of her fiance,
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done undone. I added that, dun dundone, it was not
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on the article, and since that encounter, she has slept
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with at least twenty paranormal beans. So I'll post this
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also on my Instagram for your guys' you know, amusement
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on this. So now that we talked about you know, suckubis, incubus,
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and you know a little bit of some people that
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went viral with this, let's talk about the definition of
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the fetish. So it's called spectrophilia. It is a fetish
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that is classified as paraphilia in which one is attracted
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to ghosts or spirits. It is also used to refer to,
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you know, incidents of sexual attractions between ghosts and spirits. Overall,
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I would say, now, I do recall reading on an
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article that I could not find, but if I do
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find it, I'll probably post it somewhere. And they, you know,
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it's a paranormal It was a group of paranormal investigators
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and they said that this doesn't happen as often as
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one would think. Okay, okay, But now then we get
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into this whole part of like, you know, what does
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the scientific community believe, Well, they believe that there are
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three contributing factors, which is definitely your sleep and having
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hypnotic hypnotic hallucinations or sleep paralysis. Now what do we
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find interesting about that is the sleep paralysis part, because
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I feel like so many of us who have had
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experiences with suparalysis, you know, experience it with shadow people
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or the hat man. So I'm actually more curious if
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you are someone watching right now or not watching listening
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to me right now, definitely send me an email. I
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will post my email on all the descriptions about like
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have you ever had sleep paralysis and like the hallucination
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of something other than shadow people or the hat man.
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I only call them hallucinations because that's what the scientific
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community believes that it is. While I do understand that
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people in the spiritual community believe that sleep paralysis is
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more than just that, So just keep that in mind.
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Just trying to be respectful of both sides of the
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coin here. So I I definitely want you guys to
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please write to me. I'm very curious when I've experienced
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my sleep paralysis. It's never been pleasant. So these people
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that are having these getting it on in their stuy paralysis.
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I don't know about you guys, but you guys seem
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pretty rare, and I want to know if you guys exist,
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so please write to me. I will definitely try to
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add it to any following podcast episodes in the future
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because we need that, you know what I mean. Now,
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I think that there are some other unusual cases of
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people experiencing this type of stuff, but I don't want
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to get too much into it because I really wanted
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to focus more so on the celebrities who have had
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sex with ghosts or have dealt with an incubus or
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a succubist. That's for you to decide, Okay, Like I said,
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so when I think of sex with ghosts, I'm going
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to reference this article from Bustle, And basically, there are
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a few movies that I was like, oh my god,
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I forgot about this, and then there were some movies
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I was like, yes, I remember that. So as we're
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getting closer to this spooky season, I mean, some of
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you guys, I've been saying August first is already Halloween season.
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to convince me on I'm kind of not convinced, but
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you'll have to convince me regardless. Send me an email,
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give me your list of things why it's Halloween on
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August first. Okay, so yeah, let's start into some of
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the movies. Okay, okay. First of all, Casper, Yes, remember Casper,
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I do? I remember I had when I was like,
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I don't even know six seven. I have a picture
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too somewhere, but anyway, I had a glow in the
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dark Casper sweater and I remember that. At the very
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end of the movie spoiler the revealed Casper in human form,
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and I was like, oh my god, he is so cute.
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What what?
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Why can't he look like this in his ghost self?
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Why does he look like a potato? But it's fine,
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he's supposed to be friend, right, Okay, whatever? Okay, So
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then the article references the movie Ghost and which I
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don't think I ever saw that movie, so I guess
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I need to add that to my list of things
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to watch. And then Charmed had an episode two. Well,
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actually no, because basically Leo became really close to Phoebe. Okay,
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not not Phoebe, but Piper Okay, oh my god, I
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keep messing this up. And he was her white lighter.
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I kind of understood this as like a type of
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guardian angel or something like type with spirit. But yeah,
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there's that. Now. The other thing that we kind of saw,
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speaking of non just traditional spirit and entities relationship, there's
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also the infamous in Jennifer's body. Though we do recall
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seeing Megan Meghan Fox portray a Sucubis and all the
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things that she does. So, I mean, we do see
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one version of this in the media, but mostly again
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it's just spirits and celebrities, spirits and characters. But anyway,
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let's transition to this actresses and actors. There's only like
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one actor on here that had had that has done
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the deed with the undead. Okay, so the first one
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on this list was Lucy Liu. She basically said, and
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she's not if you don't know who she is, like,
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you guys need to check in on her. She So
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I remember from Charlie's Angel, and I believe she was
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on kill Bill. I have her stuff here. I definitely
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was ahead of myself and was like, where what movies
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has she been in? Because I do know, but I
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just like don't want to be like, oh yeah, this